Let's get right to business, how much does this affect Notre Dame's 2015 record?
Brendan: Only from the starting QB perspective, I'm not sure it will affect the record. There may be a game or two where Golson's two-minute drill heroics aren't there to save us, but there may just as well be another game or two where Golson's Toonces moments don't kill us. We're in a much worse position if QB1 goes down, though, or has a bad game.
Jim Freel: Is it too optimistic to say it helps? Looking at the offensive strengths of next years team (O-Line, Running Back, multiple receiver options) a quarterback with a run-centric skill set may allow the offense to focus more on one style and perfect it. I don't think it will clearly affect the record one way or the other, due to the fact Zaire was likely to play a lot anyway.
Eric: I think we're, at minimum, losing one more game than I would have predicted with Golson on the roster and/or starting. Especially with the early season schedule. If we make it through the USC game better than 5-2 I'll be surprised.
Punter Bro: I think this is the hardest question to answer. On one hand, Golson was an infinitely better passer. On the other hand, Zaire showed everyone that he can lead the offense in a big game on a public stage. Whereas Golson's first real game experience came against Navy in Ireland, Zaire's came in a bowl game against an SEC opponent that took Alabama to overtime, and Zaire played admirably in that game. Still, I have to side with Eric on this; unless Zaire can improve his accuracy and show that he can run the Two-Minute Drill effectively, we may be in trouble in some games.
PBurns: Honestly, I don't think it affects ND all that much (meaning more than one game). Zaire is certainly serviceable, or we wouldn't have seen him in the LSU game. I don't think he gives ND a better chance to win than Golson, but he certainly doesn't put us into the tank, and offers quite a bit himself to possibly get ND up to the offensive levels that we had hoped for under the Golson/Zaire combo.
Michael: Whatever my prediction was going to be, it likely drops it by a game. I love Malik Zaire, but it feels like a lot of jumping the gun is taking place from part of a bowl game and something close to garbage time against USC. Do we really have a good feel for Zaire's strengths and weaknesses? I don't think anyone knows, and if the staff didn't feel good enough to peg him the starter out of the spring (which would have been an easy solution for the future) that tells me something. But maybe Malik is the type of kid that flips the switch when the real game starts.
Paul: I'm with PBurns on this one. I have us pegged as a 8-9 win team regardless of QB. If you read the tea leaves, Golson was likely starting the season opener but Zaire was certainly going to see reps. I'll go as far to say that Golson's leash was probably really tight too. Zaire will certainly go through growing pains, but the record will be determined by what the coaching staff (Kelly/Sanford) want to do with the offense now. With Golson, it was going to be pass-heavy, but do you want to do that with Zaire? If so, it might be a tough year.
John!: If Everett Golson were IDEAL GOLSON for all of the upcoming season, his loss would probably result in a two to three loss swing in records. However, this is not an ideal world so you cannot count on a supremely talented quarterback translating their skills into perfect, beautiful football. The passing game might not flow as well with Zaire early in the season, but hopefully the running game will be motoring. If Golson played the whole year as Normal Golson (which is better than Mediocre Golson but not as great as IDEAL GOLSON [For more thoughts on the Saiyan-like forms of college football's Everett Golson, please subscribe to my newsletter at JohnExclamation@sports.biz]), I think Notre Dame football would win one more game than the new situation with Malik Zaire, but I would not be surprised if the lefty exceeds my expectations.
Jamie: I think it could be the difference between Notre Dame getting to the playoff this year or being a ten win team. Maybe it won't matter and Zaire would have eventually won the job anyway, but I have to feel that the Irish are going to be tested in a close game versus Texas, Virginia, or Georgia Tech early in the season. Those are times that I would have expected Golson to be able to come in and have to make pressure throws even if Zaire was the number one guy. Now, it's Zaire or bust in those games. They'll have to take the unknown of what Zaire can do over what we've seen Golson do in some situations where he led the Irish to wins when they needed him to. The hope is that Zaire takes some bumps, but gets better and is good enough in those games early because he is definitely going to be tested when Notre Dame has to go on the road to Clemson.
This is another hit of bad luck, or his critics would say mismanagement, of the quarterback situation for Brian Kelly. Do you think we'll look back years from now and talk about the quarterback situation as Kelly's biggest downfall?
Brendan: It's really unbelievable. Kelly is entering his sixth season at Notre Dame and will still not have consecutive seasons with the same starting quarterback. I think the free spirit that made Golson so much fun to watch also made it difficult to count on what you were going to get from him; Zaire and his heir apparent Wimbush seem like steadier material in what little we've seen of them so far, so perhaps the position is finally set up for some consistency. You know, in years seven and eight. Crazy.
Eric: At this point that seems to be the #narrative. The thing is, I'm not incredibly bullish on this 2015 season with Zaire. At least in terms of this being a playoff contending year or a season where Notre Dame actually makes the playoffs and Kelly's stock goes up a few notches. Even if Zaire plays reasonably well--and I think he can do that--this seems like we're at least another 2 years away from Kelly being able to take this QB monkey off his back. Yes, there's a lot of nuance involved in these discussions. But at the end of the day, Kelly's had 3 quarterbacks forego a fifth year at Notre Dame, and the highest rated QB also bolted town. Is that all or even most of Kelly's fault? No it's not, but at the end of the day it's Year 6 and the program is still searching for consistency at the most important position and had a very talented quarterback just say "no thanks" and move on. Again, this isn't all at Kelly's feet but you are what you are. After this year Kelly will have been at Notre Dame for 6 years--the same as Dan Devine--with only Holtz having more in South Bend over the past 35 years. Tommy Rees will be the only QB to leave without eligibility left. Not ideal.
Jim Freel: I don't think Kelly has mismanaged the quarterback position at all. He inherited Dayne Crist and Tommy Rees from Charlie Weis. He immediately was able to recruit well at the position by landing Golson and Gunner Kiel. It's not Kelly's fault than Kiel didn't want to stay on the bench behind Golson and then Golson got suspended. Considering where the position was then and where it is now, I think Kelly has done a fine job with QBs while at Notre Dame.
PBurns: Wrong place, wrong time. At each step of the way, I think CBK has made the best of the situations that have been given to him (with the possible exception of putting so much on EG last season). I certainly can't speak to his demeanor and how that may/may not have contributed to EG's struggles, but as far as "playing the right guy", CBK has done as well as could be expected.
Michael: Two sides to this - on one hand I hate the absolutes that sometimes the fan base issues, i.e. "Stop making excuses, Kelly can't manage or develop QBs" or "There are no excuses for going 8-5, losing to Navy, etc." Circumstances beyond your control matter, and pretending a coach is an omnipotent God of injuries, college kids behavior, or admissions doesn't get you anywhere. This is usually followed by a comparison to Nick Saban or Urban, as if they never had anything happen they weren't prepared for (BTW, Urban Meyer went 8-5 in his 6th season at Florida). Rant aside, I think the nugget of truth in the complaints about Kelly is that both in his offensive scheme and coaching style he puts a ton of pressure on quarterbacks. Maybe he doesn't do a good job dividing time/energy/efforts among multiple players at the position, but that's a challenge for every coach. Apparently only Tommy Rees is strong enough to handle it.
Paul: Didn't we get consecutive seasons with Crist as the starter? I'll stand corrected if not, but that didn't really pan out well so I'm not as big on that for overall importance than some may be. I think Kelly's offense is more of a system and you can plug in a QB into it and keep the machine running as long as you are flexible with it. When we look back on Kelly's tenure here, I think we'll be looking more at the institution resisting/rejecting the push to adjust standards for the sake of talent rather than the QB position being a downfall. How many recruits have we signed/committed and lost due to ND clearinghouse issues? I think that is what we'll point at because I don't see us firing Kelly. He'll leave on his own accord and we will have to look in the mirror to figure it all out. I will never say that ND should dumb down standards. Far from it. But there needs to be some sort of system where the AD and the Compliance office are on the same page. I would have liked to have seen Golson stay for his final year but perhaps there is something he knows that we don't.
John!: Optimistically, I think the run of Zaire, Kizer, and Wimbush could be the end of what we talk about when we talk about Brian Kelly and QBs. As everything stands now, the lack of consistency at the quarterback position has been an issue. However, it is not an issue that exists separately from some consistency in all other facets in the offense. Offensive coaches have moved on, players have been injured, and there have been different levels of talent at various other offensive positions while the quarterback situation has played itself out during Kelly's tenure. If Kelly's run ended today, the quarterback situation would be a big point in a discussion of his time on the job. There is still time to change a narrative.
Jamie: Is this mismanagement by Kelly? I'm not sure it is. It certainly wasn't his fault that Golson got suspended for cheating and I'm not going to put the blame on him for all of those turnovers either. If EG took care of the football, Notre Dame would have had at least a couple of more wins last season and would not have come off the bench for the LSU game. If that happens, then I don't think Golson is transferring. Also, it's not like he didn't recruit well after Golson came to Notre Dame. Zaire, DeShone Kizer, and Brandon Wimbush are all very talented prospects that a lot of other programs would love to have on their roster even if some team bloggers wouldn't admit that's the case.
As of right now how do you define or look at Golson's legacy at Notre Dame?
Jim Freel: I think Golson's career will be viewed through the lens of "What if". First, he plays well enough to complete a perfect regular season and take a team to the national title game. Then he gets suspended and misses a whole season, then comes back and starts the season off on fire before collapsing and regressing a little as a quarterback. You have to wonder whether not getting suspended would have allowed him to develop to a higher level than we saw in his last year.
Brendan: It's complicated. I think he'll be remembered more fondly, eventually, than some other Irish quarterbacks with similarly uneven paths because he was just so much fun to watch when he was on. What he did to Oklahoma, Pitt, even Alabama in 2012, and to Florida State last year, was exceptional. Time has a way of amplifying the crests and shallowing the troughs, and I think people will remember Golson for giving us some phenomenal moments. And, like Jim, I also think a lot of Irish fans will say "what if."
Eric: Mostly just sad right now. Over time, I think he'll be remembered quite fondly. In the grand scheme his bad moments were Michigan 2012, ASU 2014, and USC 2014. We won the first game, he nearly brought us back in the second, and he was rightfully pulled in the third. College football fans are fickle and emotional so over the past few months Golson's bad moments seemed real terrible but his best moments outshined those moments to an overwhelmingly degree. It's kind of funny if you make a comparison to Quinn's last two seasons. The Irish were 19-6 from 2005-06 and the program went 20-6 in Golson's two years of starters with the latter QB seeing a much, much more difficult schedule. If you compiled a list of the Top 15 QB performances from those 4 seasons how many does Quinn get versus Golson? Maybe 3? Maybe 4 tops? It's really intriguing when you think about it like that.
Punter Bro: "The Best Who Almost Was." For every flash of brilliance that we saw from him in games like 2014 FSU and Michigan and 2012 Oklahoma, we had 2012 Michigan and 2014 Arizona State to bring him down from the mountain. And then there is the whole suspension thing on top of that. I don't even know how I feel about him right now.
PBurns: From a pure talent perspective, I think he was the best QB at ND since Brady Quinn, possibly better than Quinn. His arm in person is something amazing to watch. Forever plagued by turnovers, he was STILL one of the most prolific players in the history of ND. The crop of guys behind him are also electric players, but I find it hard to believe that any of them have the potential that EG flashed in his time as the starter.
Michael: It will be remembered by the broader college football world as a symbol of the rollercoaster of the Brian Kelly era. The highs were amazing - 2012 as a whole, in particular Oklahoma, the red-hot start to 2014 - and the lows were just as low with the head-scratching turnovers. Fairly or unfairly I think this year will change how he is remembered at Notre Dame - if Zaire comes in and plays lights out, he'll be remembered as a guy who could never quite put it together, made academic mistakes, and bailed out when he couldn't handle competition. If Golson succeeds wherever he lands and Notre Dame struggles, then I think he'll be remembered in a better light, as strange as that may be, and more blame will shift to how Brian Kelly treated him unfairly.
Paul: Golson is the equivalent of the cold spot in the middle of a Hot Pocket. Damn if it isn't delicious and then you get to the middle and it ruins it all for you because it didn't quite finish cooking. Golson had his moments of greatness and his moments of sheer frustration but it's the fact that his career here just seems so unfinished that I can't help but be frustrated by it all. I think Golson had/has the talent to be a Heisman-caliber QB but by leaving, he is basically giving that up. Not just that, but he's leaving post-spring game after he played pretty well. Again, there is likely something we don't know about the whole scenario and without speculating, clearly Golson was driven to leave and we may never really know why.
John!: I have been watching Golson highlights while listening to Carole King and Sarah McLachlan so I cannot define Everett's legacy accurately in terms of the larger fan base. Golson was capable of traipsing your sporting emotions in every which way - the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, and the creamy middles. We have seen the much bemoaned Inconsistent Signal Caller that can follow up a sparkling game with a three-pick affair, but Golson followed up a national championship season with a disheartening suspension. Things seemed bigger with Golson, be it the giddiness of his potential or the reactions to his turnovers. In those moments, everything hinged on Everett, for better or worse. As time passes and life goes on, this will mellow and we can take stock of the fun and excitement that Golson provided in spite of those moments of fleeting sports sadness.
Jamie: This pretty much just adds to the legacy. He will forever be a "What if..." player in Notre Dame history. Even after missing a year with his academic issue, he still was able to come back and generate Heisman buzz halfway through last season. Imagine if they didn't call the OPI in the Florida State game? Imagine if he stuck it out, beat out Zaire for the starting job (which many predicted he would after the spring), and then capped it off with a great senior year playing for a team with twenty starters returning?
One silver lining is that this gives Zaire as many as 3 years of starting and the team can have all summer to rally around him as starter. How exciting is this?
Brendan: I'm not setting him up for a 2015 Heisman run or anything, but consider that Notre Dame hasn't had a quarterback with the mix of skills that Zaire brings in a very long time. There have been plenty of better passers in the post-Devine era and a few better runners, but few have combined the skills as well. Zaire is a better passer than Rice, a better runner than, well, anyone since Rice and several guys before him. With the full starter-level attention of Sanford and Kelly, it'll be very interesting to see how he develops.
Jim Freel: If Zaire can show that he can be a consistent passer, the thought of three straight years with him as a starter is very exciting. He's already shown himself to be a very good runner and great leader so we could be in for a good three years with Zaire starting.
Eric: As many know, I was terrified of a quarterback controversy between Golson and Zaire. So yeah, I'm looking forward to everyone rallying around Zaire. I'm not super high on Zaire coming out and playing really and skipping the normal hurdles that most quarterbacks have to overcome. Having 3 years of Zaire is very exciting. Knowing he's The Guy against Texas, Georgia Tech, Clemson, and USC in just a few short months does scare me. On the other hand, this probably sets in motion a year earlier that Notre Dame will move to more power spread-ish game plans for the next several years and perhaps the remainder of Kelly's tenure in South Bend. That's one thing with Zaire that I've really looked forward to.
PBurns: This is a great thing for Zaire and the offense to gel around heading into summer/fall workouts. Instead of tamping down his leadership genes, Zaire can go full out with "his team" and see where that takes them. On a team that is sorely missing the central leader, he may just be the guy to take this team up another level. From a scheme standpoint, I think the run-based spread attack we saw against LSU will work quite well with the personnel on the field. The offensive line has to be salivating right now at how many guys they're going to be putting on their backs this season.
Michael: I love the fire Zaire brings - he certainly carries himself differently on the field than Golson did. I'm not sure he's ready, but we'll find out and ideally being "the man" this soon at least will pay dividends in 2016 and 2017. As we've learned nothing is written in stone, but not only do you three years of Zaire, but also many of Alex Bars, Quenton Nelson, Tristen Hoge, Greg Bryant, Alize Jones, CJ Sanders .... you get the point. The offense should be loaded where hopefully Zaire doesn't have to shoulder too much of the burden, and he should be able to grow comfortably knowing Golson isn't standing on the bench coming in if he throws a pick or for a two-minute drill.
Paul: Jacked and pumped? I thought Zaire performed outstanding in the bowl game, but he had a pretty simple playbook. That isn't the case now. We'll definitely see some growing pains with him, but I am actually excited that we have a first-year OC with a first-year QB. I think that if the coaching staff plays this right, Zaire might end up being one of the great ND QBs. That means not doing what they did with Golson and ask too much or put him in a position where he has to do too much. We have a stable full of NFL-caliber running backs and wide receivers and tight ends. If the staff utilizes the skill positions, it'll take the edge off of Zaire to do what he can't.
John!: Malik Zaire's raw ability is exciting in and of itself, but the prospect of having three straight years of the same starter is more exciting. Receivers would be able to develop a long term rapport with Zaire. Play calling could be tailored to Malik's skills and development. The prospect of such a world of Notre Dame football has me searching for various furniture and lumbers to knock incessantly for the next three years.
Jamie: My initial disappointment about Golson not sticking around and trying rebound after a bad finish to last season went away kind of quickly thinking about what the offense is going to look like with Zaire. It's an unknown, but an exciting unknown. I love Zaire as a runner and love the way the players on the team seem to respond to him. He's everything Golson was not in terms of a charismatic leader. I'm excited to watch him grow as a player and I think he is going to be energized to prove that he is worthy of being the starting quarterback at Notre Dame.
Now we're one injury away from the inexperienced Kizer and/or Wimbush playing games. On a scale of 1 (not even phased, bro) to 10 (losing your mind) how worried are you?
Jim Freel: I would put my level of concern at an 8. That isn't an indictment of Kizer and/or Wimbush's ability. (I'm actually kind of excited to see who ends up as the #2 QB). However, it is quite concerning that the QB depth consists of 1 start and only one guy who has even taken meaningful practice reps. Another concern is the style Zaire plays with may end up leaving vulnerable to more dings than a pocket passer.
Brendan: I'll say 7. I'm concerned, for sure, and if Zaire does have any kind of serious injury issue I'll jump to an 11. Our backup options are less physically limited than Tommy Rees (God love him) and it should be somewhat easier to build a game plan that protects them, but even so, that's asking for trouble. But I think Zaire will be able to hold up and we'll see some good things from him.
Punter Bro: I think it's a soft 7 for me. If we have a simple gameplan a la 2014 LSU, I think backups could effectively run that sort of offense. On the other hand, if we're in a 2014 Stanford situation and need a quick score, we might be wishing Golson didn't transfer or that an injured Zaire would be our best option.
PBurns: 8, which isn't a 10 only because I think Zaire is pretty sturdy and Wimbush may have enough raw talent to pull a few wins out of nowhere should he be forced to start. Kizer is still an unknown quantity in my mind, and I haven't learned anything about him to change that thought in my head.
Eric: I'm probably at about a 9 on this. Look, when is Notre Dame ever going to have this many returning starters and depth? I've seen it written in numerous places this off-season but if Notre Dame isn't going to be a great team in 2015 then when will they ever in the future? Just check out the NFL prospects post from Friday and see how many good players we will and can lose after 2015. This upcoming season has overwhelmingly better odds of being a stronger season than 2016. If Zaire can play at a high level then the plan for 2015 is still in place. But if he misses even a game or two this could-be special season could turn into 8-4 real quick. And that sucks because ND hasn't shown the ability to re-load after losing a ton of talent which could lead to 4 straight seasons of fewer than 10 wins.
Michael: I'm with Eric here at DEFCON-9 (Important note: I do not know how DEFCON's work) - this season is crucial to the program's trajectory, and without Zaire it feels like the seat for Brian Kelly is probably getting a little toasty a year from now.
Paul: I got 33.3%. Repeating of course. Look, if Zaire gets hurt, we're probably writing this season off. You can work one fresh and new QB in but getting two or even three on the same page will be really tough simply because Zaire needs as many reps as possible in practice. Yea, they might write up an LSU-style playbook for whoever QB2 is, but it's not sustainable. The only way we'd be ok is if the defense plays all-world this season and if we don't get Russell back, I'm very bearish on that happening.
John!: Kizer and Wimbush are highly touted guys who have all the makings of being fine quarterbacks, but the prospect of losing your number one QB keeps concern around a 7.5. I would lower that to a 6 if Golson or Zaire were backing up the other. In either case, you have someone with playing time ready in case of injury. Throwing Kizer or Wimbush in due to an injury to Zaire could have a few different outcomes. Nerves could make their first go a struggle. If they have a great first go, unrealistic expectations might set in. Things are more precarious than they were a week ago, but this is how it is now.
Jamie: I'll say a six. I wouldn't feel great if either of those guys had to play important snaps before they are ready against good teams, but Kizer and Wimbush aren't Pat Dillingham or David Wolke. Both have big time talent and they'll both have the benefit of playing behind a really good offensive line and hopefully be able to rely on a really good running game if they were forced into action.
We'll suck it up and wish Golson the best. Which school do you think he should transfer to for 2015?
Eric: Out of all the schools that are being thrown out there Duke keeps sticking out to me. David Cutcliffe has done a nice job developing offensive weapons in Durham and it feels like a nice landing spot with less pressure, but still big time enough to stay relevant. Although, I'm not sure if a grad program at Duke is in the cards for Golson at this point. A transfer to a major program (Alabama, FSU, UCLA) would be a little shocking, and I get the feeling Notre Dame is going to block a transfer to any of those type of schools. There's talk that a transfer to a SEC school is out due to his ‘13 suspension. I don't know, most are expecting Golson to stay near his home of South Carolina, right? I'll tell you a program that would make a lot of sense and lost a quarterback: East Carolina. I actually think if you look at the distance from Myrtle Beach that ECU is as close as any other school besides South Carolina.
Jim Freel: I don't want to make a prediction because I'm not privy to Golson's motivation and desires. Does he want to go to a national title contender? closer to home at a place like South Carolina? or somewhere where he is the unquestioned guy with no chance of getting pulled? (Miami of Ohio?). However, there are a few schools that would be gut-wrenching. Alabama is looking for a starting QB, so is Florida State. And there is a certain school that still hasn't scored that has a new coach and needs a QB.
Brendan: Going home makes sense, but Eric raises an interesting point about the SEC - if they're really out, that nixes Florida and South Carolina, and there's no way we'd release him to the ACC. Whither the mercurial EG, then? I thought maybe Baylor, but apparently Seth Russell has been biding his time behind Bryce Petty and is in full control there. West Virginia could be an interesting fit; Dana Holgorsen would probably have a lot of fun. Mostly. If Everett really wants to flip the bird to the Notre Dame fan base, he could head to UCLA - pretty far away from home, but definitely a more relaxed atmosphere than Notre Dame. That would almost certainly do irreparable damage to his legacy with a lot of Irish fans, though. Probably worth keeping an eye on Oregon, too.
Punter Bro: Like my fellow bloggers above, I'm not entirely sure about his motivations. If he wants to put up stupid-offense numbers and look great on paper, he should transfer to a MAC/CUSA/AAC school, in my opinion. The school that he would go to would have to be one where he could take over the starting job immediately. My money would be on a school like East Carolina--close to home, no incumbent starter, and an offense that he could put up silly stats in.
PBurns: I honestly have no feel for where Everett should land. From a career standpoint, he should probably head somewhere with big time NFL ties. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up out on the West Coast, possibly UCLA like Brendan mentions. More relaxed atmosphere, but also close to George Whitfield, who I see him continuing to work with until the draft comes around.
Michael: I'd like to see him go to LSU. They need a QB with his passing ability badly, and Cam Cameron's system would be a good fit both for Golson's skill and future draft stock. Hand off to Leonard Fournette and let him run people over, have fun continuing to play on a big stage, and play for a guy in Les Miles who probably talks to himself more than his quarterbacks.
Paul: It depends. I care little for what is "best for him," because only Golson really knows that answer. Based on the SEC grad transfer rules, I think he goes somewhere not SEC. If I'm wishing him well, probably somewhere in the south like Clemson or Florida/South Carolina (if the SEC lets him in). Maybe he goes to Miami-Ohio to play with Martin. The "internet blogs" seem to be throwing out UCLA and Texas, but I just don't see them doing that unless each are desperate. If I'm not wishing Golson well, he probably transfers to Connecticut. In a vacuum, I'd have him transfer to Maryland so he can continue to beat Michigan.
John!: I am not sure how ironclad the SEC bylaw being referenced is. I think if a coach in the conference very much wanted Golson and Golson very much wanted to attend said school, it would happen. I'd say South Carolina if he wants to return to the state, LSU if he wants to play with a lot of talent in the conference with an opportunity to start, and Miami Ohio if the SEC does not work out, but I am just guessing at this point.
Jamie: Should is an interesting way to ask it. I think he should go play for Chuck Martin at Miami (Ohio). He knows the offense, Martin was his former quarterback coach, and his transfer would be celebrated. I have a feeling he wants to go some place bigger though and I would personally like to see him transfer to LSU. He would get to work with a coordinator who made Zach Mettenberger a pro quarterback after working with him for one season, be surrounded by future NFL talent, and I would love to see him play and do well in the SEC West. As a bonus, he would get another shot at beating Alabama and exercise some of those demons.