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2012 Notre Dame Football Signing Day Open Thread

It's 7 AM in the Eastern Time Zone, and today is National Signing Day.

What are you doing right now?

I'll tell you what Bob Diaco is doing right now. He's been up since 2:30 calmly sipping his coffee and playing Jedi mind tricks on the Gug fax machine.

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There's no telling what's coming through that machine this morning.

So sit back, relax, and participate in this Signing Day open thread as we welcome the 2012 recruiting class to Notre Dame.

Don't forget to head over to und.com for live streaming of the Irish program activities. I'll be in the driver's seat today relaying information to the masses as the 2012 class officially grows in size.

Also, don't forget to check out our new Recruiting Central page---it will be updated in the coming days as NSD passes.

Star-divide

Go Irish!

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Jack Nolan talking….

We will have interviews with the early enrollees in Gunner Kiel, Tee Shepard, and Sheldon Day—-definitely look forward to that.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:04 AM EST reply actions  

No hot chick in a short skirt grabbing the faxes

Just a hand pops in and grabs it.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:06 AM EST reply actions  

Really?

They could at least have given Sockface that job

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

How great would that be?

Then follow it up with puppet BK doing the presser this afternoon…

I don't tweet often--but when I do, you can be sure it isn't important.
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by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love that

almost as much for the shout out to HRB as the amount of exploding heads it would cause over at NDN

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Keith Arnold threw up a pic of the fax machine

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Most of the fax machine budget was spent on Absinthe.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

No bullshit...

I have a bottle of Czech Absinthe here… none of that pussy French stuff.

Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.

by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure if you have to have a fax machine in your office

you want it to be small, and indistinguishable from a printer

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Bizhub

Have we learned nothing in 2012!

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

We have one of those at my place of employment.

It is a POS. Prints color slow as all hell and seemingly has a paper jam every 100 sheets or so.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, well, well....

It…uhh..looks cool!

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If you are going with one of those

shouldnt it be a Xerox one given that they have that crazy sponsorship ad with us?

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Turner is going to be an interesting prospect

Barring any late pickups, he’ll be the lowest rated recruit for ND according to our staff here at One Foot Down.

What do you all think of him?

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:10 AM EST reply actions  

Which is nuts

He could grow a lot for the next three years.

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Whaaaa?

So is he a genius who’s graduating early AND a top football player?

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Ohhh, you mean as in he's only 16 as in age early

Okay, I thought as in he’s graduating in January and is on campus.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

a football Doogie Howser

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Feb 1, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This goes here...

Enjoy.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

If Day can stand up physically

He’s going to be so disruptive.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:27 AM EST reply actions  

"How excited is your mother that you're here?"

“Words can’t describe it.”

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:28 AM EST reply actions  

UND.com will interview Kieth Arnold from Inside the Irish

As well as recruit expert Tom Lemming.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:33 AM EST reply actions  

Looooooooooooooooooooove

Tee Shepard.

I want this kid to be so successful.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:39 AM EST reply actions  

Shepard and Day are rooming together

“We are like family.”

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 7:41 AM EST reply actions  

Very excited about Brown

If he wasn’t so skinny, didn’t get hurt this year, and played in Florida….he would have been a high 4-star guy.

A lot to like about his game. The speed is tremendous.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Mahone runs a little bit like Cierre Wood

But with a little more power and less agility.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:07 AM EST reply actions  

I'm so happy about him and Russell.

They are much-need additions, and look like they should fit well.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

When Carlisle is added too

It’s a joyous haul.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Tebow story on ESPNU right now if you're interested

Did he just play with kids and talk on stage as his “missions?”

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

UND is saying Daly is 6'3" 245

Don’t remember him being that big.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

Huh....

Weight might be a little inflated, but okay.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

He's just the long

snapper. Another win over Ohio State, better than that skinny Bryce Haynes.

by Michael Collins on Feb 1, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Good morning gentlemen.

Looking good so far…here’s to a great rest of the day. Go Irish! Raises Monster energy drink

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

Mike Farrell is hearing a rumor that Davonte Neal

Will be a Ohio State Buckeye. Still not sure when he signs (he wasn’t supposed to do so for another week or two) but don’t be shocked if he does today.

/Urban’d

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

Dang! This is one kid is was stoked about

seeing in Blue and Gold, but it doesn’t look like it will be happening.

God, Country, Notre Dame

by goldeNDomer0209 on Feb 1, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it kind of sucks

This class is going to be very small I think.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, like the season

recruiting is going to end up being a giant what could have been.

I think there are a lot of guys sending in LOIs today that can help ND win a lot of games, but boy did we miss a big opportunity this year. Even if just FSU goes our way I bet we close stronger (and perhaps hold onto Darby) let alone some of the other losses we had.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

.

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

I will rec this every time

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Farrell is wrong more than right...

but signs have been pointing that way for a few weeks. He still has an OV left, with a possible 6th (unofficial) to Arizona. I don’t think we know for sure for a week or two…

Also, Ohio State is maxed out, so everyone they sign means they have to cut/get rid of someone.

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@jemiesle

by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot can happen in a couple weeks...

I’m not even hopeful about Neal but he isn’t signing today and a lot can still happen. Hearing things from even a well-connected “source” could mean nothing unless that source is the Neal family.

by alstein on Feb 1, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

HEY HEY Brother!

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Beef on Weck for all! Pass the Genessee!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

That actually sounds delicious right now...

This bagel isn’t doing it for me.

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Father in Law is from Buffalo...

They always bring us back kummelweck rolls to Indy when they head out east to visit the family.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I miss Western NY...

Boston is for los"ah"s. A bunch of Matt Damon- and Mark Wahlberg-loving mofos…A beautiful city inhabited by the dreg of the sports world (C’s, B’s, Pats, BC, Red Sox)

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I only found out a few years ago

That beef on weck wasn’t something everyone ate across the country.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Good...

more for us!

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey brother

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Love this signing.

Great pickup to anchor the DL. He’ll have a great mentor in BIG LOUIS NIX.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Gunner Kiel interview

IT’S ABOUT TIME!!

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Is that Gunner talking or Lurch?

LOL

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

I didn't have the video up (listening on headphones). Shocked the crap out of me.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Kiel is a big dude

He’s got a linebacker neck popping out through a hoodie.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

He is built like a LB...

with a laser-rocket arm

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by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Remember when we didn't take Schutt because we apparently wouldn't have room?

I don’t think that was the case, must have been more to the story.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

IIRC

a few other teams passed (Mich?) as well, I think there is more here than just numbers.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

#sour

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

The staff never really liked him all that much...

and at the time, they were on to bigger and better things (only some of which materialized obviously).

I suspect they would rather have the scholarship available for the 2013 class that I have heard they are much better positioned for than they ever were for this class.

by alstein on Feb 1, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Dalvin Tomlinson has apparently picked Alabama over Ga Tech

Not that anyone really cares, but look at this guy…

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Roster management

Saban has to cut some of his prospects, too.

by Michael Collins on Feb 1, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Alabama also got Korren Kirven

Another DT that looks like he’s 30 years old.

If you’re counting at home, that’s 29 commitments for the Tide (so far) with 8 kids already on campus as EE’s.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

GREYSHIRTING NATIONAL CHAMMMMMPEEEEEEEONNNNNSSSSS PAAAAWWWWLLLL! ROLLLLLLLLLLLLL TAHD!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

/poisons tree

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

/rejects 13 plea deal

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

/Calls Finebaum and claims he was assaulted at a gas station

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

/Al from Dadeville

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

/appears in ESPN documentary

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Good lord

To state the obvious, the NCAA needs to do something about oversigning this blatant

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Considering the opportunity they missed

with OSU, the public eye on oversigning, etc. its hard to have much/any faith that things will change until Alabama has claimed 86 national championships.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Seconded.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I got rec'd on OFD.jpg

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I have fantastic thoughts

of him playing both sides of the ball – à la a certain bad-ass Cardinal of recent years.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

YEAAH Nick Barrati

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

S Nick Baratti is Irish!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

FSU also signed DE Mario Edwards (rated #1 by ESPNU)

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

El Churro shall be gracing us shortly!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

OLB Josh Harvey-Clemons picks Georgia

We’ve had two hilarious interviews on ESPNU so far today.

Mario Edwards was in a room that was loud as hell, guy walks in front of the camera, the noise clearly affects Rece Davis. I mean, you’re going on TV to be on ESPN….wouldn’t your family and friends be quiet??

And Clemsons….sheesh I dunno if he was distracted, couldn’t hear Rece very well or what….but he just did not look smart.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

looks like he's resigned to this class having no fun surprises.

makes sad face

i don’t wanna play against nelson for 4 years…..

by 4pointshooter on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I, for one, look forward to

Tee Shepard locking him down for 4 years. Beat the best to be the best, can’t be scared of anyone on NSD, let alone gameday.

by alstein on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Kelly thinks Chris Brown is a steal

Will help in the screen game.

We can haz screens?

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

I got pretty geeked

after reading his film room report from ISD

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

chris brown

“he’s coming to the party?”

imagine that in a kristen bell meltdown voice

by 4pointshooter on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

You saw that sloth episode?

That was pretty funny….

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

My wife was watching that one last night...

still can’t believe that Kristen Bell is engaged to Dax Shepard. Seriously?

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@jemiesle

by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they really soured on him after the knee injury

Which is unfortunate, but happens when you follow the rules

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@jemiesle

by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Came in during the interview! Don Bosco Prep in the house!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Only the Western kids left to go

Greenberry, Stanley, and Russell.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

7am on the left coast in approximately 25 minutes.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Tee Shepard:

inspirational Disney movie just waiting to happen.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

How many weeks before he gets featured on GameDay? 2? 3?

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

We're hearing a LOT about Chris Brown

sounds like the coaches are already high on him.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

Martin makes a great point on how CFB needs an early signing period like hoops.

I am in favor of this proposition.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I call it a coin flip...

simply b/c he LOVES ND. It all depends on if he wants all the $$$ or not. I could see him as a lifer now in SB, but who knows.

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by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope he sticks around

but similar to some of our other coaching losses this year – its a good problem to have. I’d rather have these guys leaving for promotions than having to can guys a la Charlie.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, we've made it this far in comments

and no one has said it yet so I will….

No Fullback? How does BK expect to play big boy football without a fullback on the roster? Doesn’t he realize this isn’t the BigEast/MAC/DivIII anymore???

/not serious
//but somewhere (NDN) this is being thought/said seriously

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

Shhhhhh

They’re still holding out hope that Greenberry doesn’t sign so they can call this a Willingham-like class.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah yes

because even if that happened we’d be so close to having such stars as [insert basically any LOLTY name here].

Also. I wish I wish kidding about this, I just went to Rivals to look at the 2004 class and got this error message:

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rivals is super slammed today.

Several team pages (IU, UK and U of I were ones I looked at), are giving me the same message.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I figured

but I didn’t know if I should laugh or cry when I saw that. Goodness.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Harrumph!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

After a quick scan, looks like the following.

No surprises good or bad.

Just waiting on the West Coast Kids.

Saban & Meyer are both now well over 85.

by whiskey OFD on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

And Meyer is limited to 82...

along with Saban only being allowed to sign 25 per SEC rules. Not sure if either are that good at math right now…

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by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope there are penalties in the future...

That is straight up ridiculous…

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Over 85?....

Wow…they look so much younger…unbelievable!

by borromini on Feb 1, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to sound too emo

But USC is on probation and can sign 15 players.

All indications are that we’re only bringing in 17 players.

/gritsteeth

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

Until a couple of days ago it really looked like we would get another 2-3 guys.

Now that it looks like we won’t the reality of 17 is having a somewhat similar effect on me as well…..

by whiskey OFD on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Sigh

Are we officially out for Agholor? Because that would make me feel a lot happier.

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Quality over quantity...

or something like that will help me sleep at night…

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

DT Eddie Goldman to FSU

No surprise there.

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Florida State signs DT Eddie Goldman (#1 DT, #10 OVR on ESPNU 150)

They are making some big grabs on D.

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Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Love what Martin said about the QB's

Nolan asks about Rees, he doesn’t mention Rees but talks about being excited to coach the GROUP, and that they don’t have that one guy who is the starter.

Says the spring and fall will determine who the starter is.

I like what I’m hearing so far….

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

Wow, really?

Have fun playing in an irrelevant conference

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Sure If Serious...

You do realize Mizzou is now SEC, yes?

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course, I know...

c’mon now. However, I will say this…Missouri will be an irrelevant team in the SEC at least for a few years..

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair to jkra

it is the SEC East…

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love the SEC's intelligence when it comes to geography.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Fixed

Gotta love the SEC’s intelligence when it comes to geography.

Furk.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

They should switch Ole Miss & Miss State

With Florida and Georgia.

Then have an EPL-type relegation with the lower division.

Come on Tennessee and South Carolina! You gotta make it with the big boys!

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I think SCar

would like a word with you if FL made it over them…or at least would want the Aggies out.

Also relegation in CFB…possibly coming based on the governance restructuring Emmert referenced?

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I do it in NCAA 12...it's fun times.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah Florida wins titles

South Carolina doesn’t.

Could switch A&M and South Carolina though.

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Woah

Okwara is 6’4", 240, and still has a few years of growth left. Sweet Jesus.

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

Pretty quiet and boring NSD so far

Not just here but across the country….

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

The UND live blog is turning into a Chuck Martin lovefest...apparently he is now the child of Bill Brasky and Chuck Norris.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

OK Quick Swag at the end of the day today.

18 Signees (Includes Badger)
25 Freshmen (Includes Carlisle)
19 Sophs
15 Juniors
12 Seniors eligible for a 5th
89 Total

So we have room for 8 5th year players next year

Cave, KLM, Slaughter, Goodman appear to be in

That leaves 4 of the following 8
Walker (Already gave his number to Kiel)
Golic Jr. (Think he Tweeted he’s coming back)
Clelland
H Williams
Newman
Posluszny
McDonald
McCarthy

by whiskey OFD on Feb 1, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

I would imagine

that golic and mccarthy are basically locks.

After that McDonald and Hafis I’d assume? But really don’t know

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

For the next class

18 Freshmen
25 Sophs
19 Juniors
8 Seniors eligible for a 5th
70 Total

15 Total spots available for new recruits if keep all 8 5th year options
8 Additional spots as a 1 for 1 for 5th year players
23 Absolute max number of schollies available

That obviously doesn’t account for any other attrition
Most likely end up with a class of approx 20 a year from now

by whiskey OFD on Feb 1, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

Reggie Brooks on the air with Jack.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

It's true.

Per Rivals, according to Mr. Shepard.

by alstein on Feb 1, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

confirmed on ISD now too

that sucks

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Mahone....

Down hill runner, good hands, and good vision.

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Greenberry apparently signs with Houston

His H.S. coach has confirmed.

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

Team that is...

Not Greenberry…this hurts

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

SMDH

I know they are headed to the BE in ’13, but why there of all places? Makes no sense.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I am seriously at a loss for words

MASSIVE loss for this class.

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by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

Why Houston?

Track?

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by JDT217 on Feb 1, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

now we need davaris daniels

to be about 3 times as good as advertised

by 4pointshooter on Feb 1, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

THE FUCK?

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

I'm usually able to shrug stuff off

But without Greenberry this class took a huge hit. I’m talking, maybe Kelly doesn’t recover from this…

We needed an elite receiver. Greenberry is going to be an absolute stud.

We needed Greenberry to come in and play right away.

We were supposed to take 4 or 5 receiver in this class…..we now have 2 that are nice and under the radar guys, but not like Greenberry.

We’re now down to 16 players, a tiny class.

We’re going to fall into the 20’s on my class rankings….

This is terrible.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

It's very bad, though.

We did need star power and numbers in this class, and we got neither.

We also needed star power and numbers at CB, and we did not get numbers.

I’m a glass-half-full guy, but this really isn’t good. We have ourselves to blame. We DID NOT get it done on the field, so we gave the kids no reason to choose ND.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention most people were happy to get Kiel

Because he’d bring in more recruits.

Aaaaand…..we lost people.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm in shock

how did we not close out this year after locking it down last year?

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Closing out on a win streak

vs. a losing streak makes a huge difference.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Coaches played a QB who couldn't take care of the ball for the last 12.5 games of the season

That was inherently different than the previous year. Win games, get recruits.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough...

don’t think that had much to do with this but these kids are on a different wavelength. Really not worth following.

by alstein on Feb 1, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Especially with this:

We DID NOT get it done on the field, so we gave the kids no reason to choose ND.

Mike Frank says this over and over again. You have to give these guys a reason to come to ND, especially when they are West coast/south guys

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's not break out the tinfoil hats, guys.

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't be a sore loser like the rest of the recruiting world. Not every decision is cash based

He had a relationship with a WR coach who’s been recruiting him forever. People have said for a while that Greenberry is a different personality than we’re used to at ND. Maybe he decided he wanted to go play for the school that actually wins games?

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If so,

Why’d he choose Houston? I’m pretty sure they’ve been irrelevant longer than we have…

by my name is inigo montoya on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We're damn near irrelevent

Houston wins games, was ranked in the top 10 this year, scores points.

We’ve hired 5 bad coaches in a row. We have QBs who can’t hang onto the ball. With the cake schedule we had this year we couldn’t win 9 games. He took visits for months before signing day. It’s embarrasing that we think we’re so damn clean and nobody else is.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Five bad caoches in a row?

Are you putting BK in that category?

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It would certainly appear that way

I haven’t been part of the sky-is-falling crew for the most part because I think there is a decent chance the problems are 95% on the QB development, and he’s been good at it before, so he will get it right at some point. But even acknowledging that, and that there are many positive signs, the flaws in BK’s coaching are unmistakable. The QB has been bad, but that means you need to protect your QB from himself, a la the game manager QBs that played for a national championship. That means safe throws, running the ball and accepting 3 pts instead of forcing balls to the endzone.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Two seasons and he's a bad coach...

Gotchya.

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Season 1 was mediocre at best

Season 2 was a failure

BK was very good at UC, and his recruiting was great in year 1 following the mediocre season, but this is a very underwhelming recruiting class without anywhere near enough elite talent. I don’t mean to argue the verdict is back quite yet on Kelly, but we’d have to say we’re looking at a 50/50 type shot on his success, right?

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

I want to ask this guy back to the Notre Dame community after his return from the asylum. YOU JUST CRAY

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He's right about seasons 1 and 2.

And that the jury is still out.

I don’t think he’s nuts. Although I do laud Kelly because for him a failure is 8-5, while for Weis it was 6-6 or worse.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I just disagree...

Calling him a bad coach, at this point, is asinine. Some pockets of fans seem to forget he still brings in quality talent and he’s made this team fundamentally better since Holtz left. Sure, he’s not getting the quantity, but that will come with time when ND starts winning on the consistent basis. They have the tools this year to make it to a BCS bowl. When/if they do, Kelly’s recruiting record at ND will increase dramatically.

Sick of ND fans quitting so frickin’ easily around here and other forums…it’s ridiculous. Are we really that negative of a fanbase?

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Amen, Sir!

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by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

First—-Mouth, you’re right on that it certainly is nice that 8-5 is a failure vs. Weis’ 6-6.

Secondly, a BCS bowl means we need to be 10-2 at minimum. With games at USC and at Oklahoma, what makes you believe we have a chance in either of them? I 100% agree with you, that if we can start winning agian, things will easily pick up. Additionally, this one class isn’t going to kill us as long as we get a big, deep class next year. But we have to win for that to happen.

In 2 years we’ve dropped 3 games to inferior teams (Navy, USF and Tulsa), a game to a pretty bad Michigan team and a game to a pretty good Michigan team and a loss to decent MSU/FSU teams, and we’ve lost all 4 games to teams better than us. To make a BCS bowl next year we need to be 10-2, with games @OK, @USC, and then games vs Stanford, Mich, Miami, and MSU. It would be a HUGE success to be 10-2 next year. This year proved that success on the field correlates to success in recruiting. Without that huge success next year, or at the very least strong indications of improvement, I really worry about recruiting and the chance of pulling in another class like this one, way short on elite talent.

You can think I’m crazy for that thought process, but it’s 100% accurate. You may not like the facts at hand, but they are facts nonetheless.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

that between the dichotomy of pretty good/bad MI teams, this year’s should be considered the “pretty good” one.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats why I said a pretty bad Michigan team (2010)

and a pretty good Michigan team (2011). I didn’t think I needed to spell it out with years. Last year’s MIchigan team was abysmal, this year’s ended up pretty decent, although I do think they’re in line for a fall.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say good

I’d say extremely lucky

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Apologies

Wasnt thinking 2010. Continue, nothing to see here.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Also,

who says we need to go to the BCS next year?! Thats the ULTIMATE goal, to be in the BCS year after year. But the state of disrepair our program was in post Davillingeis is going to take a long time to dig out of.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand this logic

What was in such disrepair that it takes 3+ years to fix? My first answer would be line play because of conditioning, but our lines were pretty good this year. Could they have been better? Sure, but that’s not a problem from the Weis era (I don’t think). We have a good strength coach, a training table, good facilities and have recruited well for the last few years.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at a program like Wisconsin

Who have a majority of starters all over the field with a lot of experience. It takes 5 years to build these guys up to top level, and that’s after you’ve built a base of recruiting to support doing that. Any coach who comes in and has immediate success is either doing it the wrong way (kiffykins), has an amazing scheme (saban, kinda), or had the shelf well stocked when they got there.

These things take time, and those things you mentioned (strength coach, training table, facilities) are all MUCH better than they were. But they’ve only gotten the full benefit of those things for not quite 3 years. That means this year’s Juniors are what BK is trying to build (and even then were his first, shortened recruiting class). I think we need to give BK until the current freshmen (about to be sophomores like Lynch) are Juniors/Seniors and completely eating people on a play-by-play basis. Calling for his head now and calling him a failure are at the very least premature.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a good example of that is Stanford under Haubaugh

They were a bad team that showed flashes of brilliance, then became a decent team with the emergence of Gerhardt, and finally became a MNC contender in the past two years.

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the big problem is perception of the program

The HARUMPH part of the fanbase already wants Kelly’s head and ESPN loves kicking us when we’re down, and that, as well as any sort of hot seat could really hurt us in recruiting

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The real state of the program lies somewhere in between

the HARUMPH set and the people who think everything is rosy. BK’s made a decent amount of frustrating mistakes that have cost this program momentum. 2011 was a year to shine and it ended up feeling more like regression. On the other hand, the HARUMPH crowd doesn’t want to admit that there are a lot of positives and the problem might simply be fixing QB play. I personally fall somewhere in between because I think a lot of the mistakes were exposed by bad play and bad luck, but a lot of my hopes are riding on BK being able to recruit his way to papermache over those issues. This class shows me cracks in that hope, hence my negativity right now.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that not everything Kelly has done has been the right decision

The biggest being, obviously, the QB situation last season.

I think Kelly has gotten us to the point where improved QB play will make a dramatic difference next year. There will be growing pains with a (presumably) inexperienced QB, but I think as long as there are signs of improvement, I’ll be fine with a non-BCS finish to the season.

But that sets up a very important Year 4 in 2013. We need clear signs of “taking the next step” by then.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this.

Just so NDZibby doesn’t think I’m totally on the BK Kool-Aid train — I just wanna give the guy a legit chance at things.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't call it an overall regression

Sure, qb play was horrific, but aspects that were weak points all during the Weis years (defense, the run game) are now strengths. If we find a decent qb in our current crop and stop turning the ball over (which should happen, what with regression to the mean), we’ll be in good shape

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I also don't think the answer is RECRUIT ALL THE FIVE STARS

As long as Kelly is bringing in guys that we feels can contribute in his system on both sides of the ball, I’ll be ok. Of course, you can only know that two or three years down the road.

In other words, as long as this group turns out to be a solid group of contributors, then this class is a success. If a number of them turn out to be misses or don’t develop, then this class is bad and the cracks start to show, as you said. But that’s really hard to evaluate now, IMO

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Going along with what I just said

the small class means the success rate needs to be pretty high and leaves the coaches with little room for error, so your concerns are certainly still valid.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

This class still is decent, but the book on it

coming in was that it was a bit short on elite talent. Greenberry and Darby taking off certainly hurts that. Can other guys step up in their place? Absolutely. If Ferguson (sp) and Daniels turn out to be beasts, it won’t matter a ton, but eventually the lack of depth comes back to haunt you. I’m not comparing the situations because this isn’t nearly that bad, but it’s a lesson of the Willingham era — Misses from year 2 + 3 created a black hole in year 5 and 6. If Kelly has a small class next year, he might still be able to win next year or the year after, but the future becomes very much in doubt.

If we had a cake schedule next year, I’d feel ok about all of this, because we could just put up a 9-10 win season, Wake Up The Echos (Part XIV)™ and bring in lots of elite talent, to cover for the holes in this one. The problem is 9 wins would be a pretty good coaching job, and 10 would be a minor miracle. Another 8 win season leaves us in an ugly quagmire with recruits liable to bail for greener pastures as the vultures swirl the ND head coaching position (yet again). It’s not a good place to be.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

True

One small class isn’t a bad thing if some of the guys in it develop into stars and we follow it up with a really good class next year.

Obviously those are two big “ifs.”

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

10-2 next year would be damn near miraculous.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep you win...

I’ll go back to cloud nine and keep hoping for the best. Besides losing MF, how badly were we hit by graduation? Most of the 2011 team will be back with another year of experience in 2012. Couple that with a possible dual-threat QB, a vastly talented d-line, and not to mention a new class of recruits coming in to prove their worth…ND has a very good chance at making a BCS game.

Sue me for having some hope going into BK’s third season, while it seems you have already given up.

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by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Zibby said
I don’t mean to argue the verdict is back quite yet on Kelly, but we’d have to say we’re looking at a 50/50 type shot on his success, right?

He also mentioned some “flaws” in BK’s coaching.

I don’t think that either of these comments or anything I said equates to “BK is a bad coach.”

Kelly hasn’t won multiple national championships yet, so of course the jury is still out on him. Personally, I like 80-90% of what I see, but this season was a HUGE opportunity missed, as was this recruiting class.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My friend, I believe you are lost.

NDNation is that way —→

You must not have taken the left turn at Albuquerque.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for Bugs Bunny reference.

We need some Looney Toons in our lives today.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Well we fucking are a clean program

Look at Bama’s oversigning, the cars and tats over at OSU, or the bail bond factory that was Florida, for example

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes we are, and it's great.

But A) not every other program is dirty, and B) by being clean and not winning more than 8 games a year with managable schedule and plenty of talent on hand makes us Northwestern. Seems like fun!

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I thought you were arguing that we pulled the same stuff as everyone else

which would be really depressing if our W-L was all we had to show for it

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

They've been good with Case Keenum

They were average (6-6 I think?) last year when he was hurt and I don’t remember them being anything special before he arrived. I would argue middling ND >>> middling C-USA (now Biig East) team

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, you'd argue that way

but the gap isn’t that large anymore. It’s way smaller than it should be, and will be until we start winning 9+ games a year again.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, I'd hold off to see how Houston does next season

And see when they play a remotely challenging schedule

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true

Regardless, most coaches at any school see a year 1 recruiting bump. Even Ty. It’s how they recruit in years 2-3-4 that really show what type of talent they’re going to pull in. We can absolutely get around this year’s small class, but it’s not an encouraging sign.

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Had to delete Publius.

We need to watch F-bombs. Publius got three strikes and had been told he was on notice.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't tempt him

He’s got a mean right hook

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by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Mystikal said

“I got a vicious right hand, but you know what, my left is quicker.”

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Third to last:

You get the picture.

Not sure why people keep calling me “mom.”

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the most vicious hit I have ever seen, by the way.

Imagine what this dude’s brain did inside of his skull. It probably rebounded like a speed bag. Yikes.

Little known factlet, though: scientists have confirmed that it is still more painful to be a Notre Dame Football fan.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh well...

We move on and hope for the best in our current stock of WRs. Sure it hurts, but these other guys are talented too. I’m sure Kelly and Co. will go hard after a stud WR next year.

Follow me on Twitter @jkra0512

by jkra0512 on Feb 1, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

True, we do have some talented guys, but now we're pretty much banking on them to come through.

AND we don’t have anyone on the order of an instant-impact, Michael-Floyd-type player on the roster. This was the year that we needed to come through big at WR.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a 2 hour meeting this morning and then a one hour meeting right after

So I finally catch up on recruiting news and see we lost DGB.

Welp, time to start drinking.
/gets fired

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

LOI just came in...and he is Irish!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Saw that too

phew

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank god

Thank would have taken on the top 25 bubble

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

/walks to garage for baseball bat

//steals office fax machine

you know the rest

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

PC Load Letter?

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

So this feels similar

to the Regis Benn / Greg Little class from a few years back (06 maybe?) or am I just crazy

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

So I would imagine the Greenberry decision

likely means either GAIII or Russel to WR yea?

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

That....

And John Goodman will be one of our primary receivers next year.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

He and Tommy showed great chemistry vs. FSU

/cries

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Toma Time is fast approaching!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

QB Jaemis Winston tells ESPN he's signing with FSU on Friday.

Why wait?

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

On the plus side

We have more than 6 linemen on the team

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about right

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention a belly putter, a broken pitching wedge and a box of used Top Flights.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Schlyer Miles to Kansas

Hoke is on ESPNU right now with the Sugar Bowl trophy behind him….

This is a great afternoon!

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

Shall I pass the bleach, sir?

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

FLAGGED

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

FURK

Damn that scoundrel Kiffin.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

My depression is reaching new lows...

now I’m imagining Kiel transferring a year from now after Goldrix gets the starting job.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Well DeVaris Daniels

an ND Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

The glimmer of hope

that I am grasping onto is that we have lacked a vertical passing game w/Tommy. My hope is that having a stronger armed (and possibly mobile) QB will show us some of the ability our current and new WR have to stretch the field / open things up for the offense.

It’s probably just a dream, but I have to hope for something.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

YES. This.

QB. QB. QB.

Hendrix. Golson. Kiel. We’re gonna be okay.

#figureitoutbobby

by fishoutofwater on Feb 1, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t have to take his word for it,

but here are a few positive thoughts from Mr. Louis Nix III (via Twitter this morning):

"You dont need guys like that, all you have to do is get the right guys that will work hard. . . i know that the only way you can win a championship is with dudes that hungry. . . my squad gonna be great no matter what is being said."

#figureitoutbobby

by fishoutofwater on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

Wrong.

Newton’s First Law of Motion and the entire Theory of Relativity both say that you do in fact have to take Big Lou’s word for it.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

It seems horrible now. And it is. But one recruit won’t make or break the 2012 season – all this means is that our current WRs need to step up their games. With good QB play, that will happen. I mean, Floyd was one of the best 3 WRs in the country this year, but with spotty QB play, even he couldn’t win us more than 8 games.

Plus, odds are actually pretty decent that Greenberry comes back to us a la prestwood afterwards. I choose non-depression.

by Danno27 on Feb 1, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Normal face color is a good sign.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't want BK to actually do this

but I would feel so much better if he just ripped Greenberry for like 20 minutes.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Insta-rec

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Seconded

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Easily my favorite ND game I've ever attended.

Walking out of that game with all the MSU fans was like walking out of a funeral.

by Grant E. on Feb 1, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Walking out of a funeral

After trying to stifle laughter the whole time because you have a case of the giggles.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta consider the PR blowback on that one.

I’m sure he already got it out in the soundproof booth hidden in his office. I know I would have. But he used the right words here, and rightfully shifted the focus onto who’s coming.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said

I don’t WANT him to do it, but the schadenfruede would be nice.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Unrelated:

Productivity of males around the country plummeted 234325% today.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

One thing that I think is getting lost in the hoopla of NSD

Jarron Jones and Sheldon Day are HUGE pickups. If this was two or three years ago, those two would probably be the centerpeice of the class. I think bringing in that huge DL class last year with star-power like Lynch and Tuitt caused people to kind of forget about them.

I think they’re both studs and we may even be able to get away with redshirting them, a luxury we never would have had even two years ago.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

I was just gonna say

that despite the disappointment at WR, frankly the haul at RB and DL was really pleasing.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Keith Arnold in Liveblog on UND.com:
Keith Arnold:
KeiVarae Russell has a similar skillset to Golden Tate.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

also
Keith Arnold:
Might take him a while, but I could see either Ferguson or Chris Brown being a top-shelf wideout…

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The staff at ISD

has been suggesting he’ll be a WR candidate for a couple weeks now. Hope Keith is right.

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

This I like.

Coach D expects K-Russ to get FASTER once he becomes good friends with the squat rack and power-clean platform.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Kid had a wicked-fast shuttle time already...

that would be outright scary, but in a good way

I don't tweet often--but when I do, you can be sure it isn't important.
@jemiesle

by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Also that if some people are right about Martin’s offensive tendencies, we might be looking at more of a run-based spread with some downhill throws to loosen it up. And we can’t forget that we still have Eifert along with a stable of potentially very good TE behind him.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Absolutely

We can get away with less-than-elite talent at WR if we’re running for 250 yeards a game.

Of course, 1) it’s still easier when you DO have elite talent at WR, and 2) we need to prove we CAN run that effectively on a consistent basis.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we'll have to cross our fingers

and hope that Hiestand can one-up Warriner on O-line performance

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

2) Didn't we prove that this year?

Or at least come pretty close?

"You've got to have poise. You've got to walk away. You're a long snapper!"
B. Kelly

by lordsummer on Feb 1, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

We proved that despite the fact that we averaged a high YPC

we still liked to throw the ball with a QB in curious situations. Jonas Gray had a ~70 yd TD on his first carry of the Pitt game and got 2 more the rest of the game. We also proved that we can run for a high YPC and win 8 games. If 8 games is the goal, we’ll be great!

(Apologies for sounding like NDN, but it’s the truth. BK had the ability to use what was a very very good run game to protect his young, mistake prone QB. He has that opportunity next year as well, I hope he takes it.)

by NDZibby on Feb 1, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

don't apologize.

I agree mostly. I still have faith in BK.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 3:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We came close

Running production dropped off later in the year when Jonas went down and opposing defenses realized if they stuff the run on first down and put the ball in Rees’ hands, good things happened for them. We need to be able to run the ball like we did against Michigan or Purdue on a weekly basis, and we haven’t shown that yet

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They also realized...

They could cheat up and improve their defense against both the run and the short passes that Rees could hit reliably, and they were unlikely to be punished by a throw over the top for doing so.

by Mr Wednesday on Feb 1, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

Hopefully better QB play will loosen the defense up and open up both the running and passing game.

by burger23 on Feb 1, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Robert Hughes

and Jonas Gray are two of my favorite players of the post-Quinn years. I really wish we’d had more success while they were here. All the best to them in the future.

"You've got to have poise. You've got to walk away. You're a long snapper!"
B. Kelly

by lordsummer on Feb 1, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I kind of agree. Kind of but not really.

When there is zero passing threat from the QB and zero running threat from the QB. A decent defense will be able to stifle your running game. So I don’t totally want to accuse our run game of choking against the big boys. They just got scouted. If your QB can do that little, it’s going to happen.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet another reason why you don't sleep on Golson.

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright guys, I'm out

I have to prepare for an interview later today with a special guest.

Will have it posted later this week.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Oo Special guest

That means they dont know who it is since they had Deontay Greenberry lined up.

/bitterfan.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

BK presser is starting!

If BIG LOUIS NIX was a Mississippi Blues Man, he'd be Jellyroll T-Bone McPorkchop, ‘cuz he's all meat, with just a little bit of sweet.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Feb 1, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

One highlight for the day:

BK’s quote on “shopping in a different aisle” if you are looking at ND. I did enjoy that one…

I don't tweet often--but when I do, you can be sure it isn't important.
@jemiesle

by Jim Miesle on Feb 1, 2012 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you to Mr. Murtaugh for the doubled Bob Diaco pics at the top of the article.

Every time I’ve checked back here at OFD today, the unexpected sight of his perfectly-coiffed hair, his piercing eyes, twice-over at the top of the page, has brought a perplexed smile to my face. I don’t know whether to be comforted or disarmed…weirdly hypnotic…

#figureitoutbobby

by fishoutofwater on Feb 1, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Like Leann Tuohy said

“I find him to be extremely good looking.”

by Mouth of the South on Feb 1, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't bee this upset

since we lost C.J. Leak to Wake Forest on signing day.

by in-dy on Feb 1, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

exactly the point

Take a look at the top ten of any position thru the years, and you’ll see more misses than hits. Another example is the year that Julius Jones was the backup plan for some guy that ended up at Washington. I say some guy, because I think he never amounted to anything.

by in-dy on Feb 2, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoops, was talking about Justified in another tab

Oh well

"Well they can't test for LSD, so I started frying on weekends"

by stempke on Feb 1, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Justified

I think I’m going to slam some Oxy to get rid of the bad taste that signing day 2012 has left in my mouth.

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Feb 1, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

could be worse...

we could be fans of Egyptian soccer right now.

Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.

by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't really meant as a joke actually...

more matter of factly… I mean here we are complaining about a couple recruits… It could be much worse.

Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.

by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

True

… The internet has ruined me.

by pburns2010 on Feb 1, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You're combining two names, Madeline Zima and Natalie Zea.

Both of whom played sex-crazed lunatics on Californication.

by Grant E. on Feb 1, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

From the sounds of it now...

Greenbury was more likely to leave ND after a year, than he is to come back to ND now.
Sounds like ND was Tees idea, not his.

by tlndma on Feb 1, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

In other Signing Day news,

Cassanova McKinzy is deterred from signing with Clemson because “they had no Chick-Fil-A on campus.”

Were there other reasons? Does it really matter with an answer like that?

He commited to Auburn instead.

http://www.cbs42.com/sports/story/Cassanova-McKinzy-signs-with-Auburn/BXOMCGh6Ok6zbGnNtuv2UA.cspx

#figureitoutbobby

by fishoutofwater on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

His name has got to be a joke, right?

That, or the best name of a college football player EVAR.

by SirWalter on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Barkevious Mingo

would like a word with you sir

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by jpeters6 on Feb 1, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap.

One sounds like a name from a 1920s romance novel, and the other a rejected Hobbit name from Tolkien’s manuscripts.

by SirWalter on Feb 2, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

DAVONTE NEAL gentlemen,

let’s stop the final push from rich rod, stoops and petrino and snatch him up. GO KELLY!

NEAL or BUST

by 4pointshooter on Feb 2, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

USC loses its grip on top California talent

In 2011, USC signed 8 of the top 10 ranked players in Calif (by Rivals). (list)

In 2012, USC signed 3 of the top 10 ranked players. Other Pac 10 teams swooped in. (list)

by Michael Collins on Feb 2, 2012 2:49 AM EST reply actions  

Yup

they had to settle for players like, Nelson Agholor.

by tlndma on Feb 2, 2012 6:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they ain't suffering.

If you’re from Florida, why the hell do you go to SC? Your options are Notre Dame or somewhere in the SEC. Somebody should have told this kid.

by Mouth of the South on Feb 2, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

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