Notre Dame vs. USF Recap: Irish Shoot Self in Foot, Also Cut Off Other Foot
Words probably can't do justice to what we witnessed on Saturday.
You couldn't even make up some of the stuff we saw.
Alas, I will try to make some sense of the madness.
This is college football and as much as we wish that it wasn't so, any loss hurts, and it hurts bad.
There was a lot not to be happy about, but despite some major mental errors the team showed glimpses of why they were expected to be very good in 2011.
Of course that talent really doesn't mean much when you lose, but it's foolish to write this team off after one weekend.
More after the jump.
No one feels good about this loss. With the step up the Irish we're supposed to take in 2011, this is a somewhat devastating loss. Still, I'm not about to jump off of a cliff and throw up my arms and claim the season is over either.
We weren't the only team to lose to a good team this weekend, and there's plenty of season left to come back and judge this game a few months from now.
Normally, I would roll out a unit-by-unit grade of Notre Dame in the post-game recap, but I don't think it's really possible to do that for what was such a wacky and wild game.
Therefore, this will be more free flowing.
- Biggest thing for me: This hurts because we know we're better and should not have lost this game.
This is what made the Weis regime so infuriating, and no I don't think we're still that type of Weis-led team---although it had that kind of feel where nothing was going right for the team and they should have been able to eliminate some mistakes and beat a lesser opponent.
It's a different feeling of helplessness when another team perceived to have less talent, comes in and throws you around at home. Give USF credit for playing a solid game, not turning the ball over, and playing within themselves, but they did not throw the Irish around.
If the tables were turned and Notre Dame was outgained by twice as many yards and still won, I would think we'd be awfully fortunate to win the game by three points.
It still frustrating to lose games when you think you're better, and the majority of the game seemed to prove that except for the scoreboard. Again, we've been down this road so many times with Weis that many are willing to cry, "same old Notre Dame."
The Irish shot themselves in the foot far too many times and they paid the price. That doesn't mean we aren't that good or that we didn't live up to the hype. It was one game.
All things considered, Notre Dame looked pretty good in some areas and South Florida has the potential to be a pretty good team this year. Let's see what this games looks like at the end of the year.
- Our defense looked fairly stout.
Although we'll probably have to dial back the notion that the defense will be dominant.
There is something to say about the short fields USF had to work with, and a general conservative offense the Bulls went to after getting out to a quick lead, but nevertheless, giving up only 254 total yards is pretty impressive.
That never happened with all those frustrating losses in the past---it always seemed like the defense folded and gave up tons of yards and points. It seemed like that because they always did, but at least this is apparently changing under Kelly.
The offense now appears to be the side of the ball with more problems, and trust me, we're much better off than the opposite being true.
The defense gave up one touchdown, that's a positive.
USF was 2 for 14 on third down.
The defense only surrendered 3.5 yards per play, the second best mark during the Brian Kelly era.
B.J. Daniels played smart and led his team well, and before the game we knew if he did that the USF offense could be very dangerous. However, the Bulls offense really didn't do a whole lot and the Irish defense did all it could to keep the game from being a huge blowout early.
Part of the reason why Daniels played competently was because the Irish didn't get a ton of pressure up front, which was a pretty big disappointment. The defense also gave up a few too many short-to-medium passes and didn't force a single turnover.
Still, plenty of positives to take away from the defense as I think they will continue to get better and a Daniels-led USF offense was not an easy opponent to open the season against.
- Special teams were a complete mess.
I don't want to pile on Riddick because he had one of the worst days we've ever seen from a starter and expected difference maker, but he does not look comfortable returning punts. In college football you need something out of the return game, and this continues to be something that holds Notre Dame back.
Ben Turk continues to be pretty bad. Call him inconsistent, he will boom one once in a while, but he's not a good punter. His biggest problem is that he not only kicks the ball 30 yards, but they are usually line drives right to the return man.
Ruffer missed a chip shot too. USF missed one of their four field goal attempts so I can't complain too much. Ruffer is still a really good kicker, but the gloss has worn off now a little bit and so has OMG BEST KICKER EVER!!
- How much blame should Brian Kelly take?
I'm not even sure. A lot of people will say Notre Dame came into the game unprepared, took USF too lightly, etc. but sometimes the breaks just don't go your way. Not many people talk about it, but the 1988 national title team turned the ball over a lot, but was able to overcome those mistakes.
Notre Dame couldn't do that on Saturday, and I'm not sure how much to read into it after one crazy game.
For all we know Riddick could never fumble a punt again and turns into one of the surest handed receivers in school history. It was only one game.
We played well on defense and did enough on offense (save the turnovers) to win this game---I'm not satisfied with having this game be an indictment on Kelly, or lose confidence in him, or trot out of a bunch of generic statements about the team not being ready.
Sometimes crap doesn't go your way. We'll see how the team responds to the adversity, because they passed the test at the end of last year.
Are you really bothered by Kelly's red-faced explosions on the sidelines?
I'm not.
Thinking that gives a bad image is pretty overstated. It's football, folks.
- Now to the quarterback and offense...
I've been a big Crist supporter, and I hate to kick him to the curb after one half (that really wasn't THAT bad) but it doesn't appear that he's improved much, if at all. We need him to be a playmaker and not someone who makes terrible red zone decisions and goes ice cold.
Crist started 6 for 8 and looked fine, but then completed just one ball on his next seven attempts. This simply cannot keep happening if he's ever to play again.
I think even the pro-Crist guys like me have to accept that he has some form of in-game tunnel vision that doesn't affect him as much in practice, and that he lacks touch and accuracy on his throws. And since we didn't really stretch the field and use his gifted arm, what good is he doing?
Rees definitely played better and this might be his team moving forward.
He threw for almost 300 yards in one half, and he shows way more consistency (70% completions on 34 attempts) than Crist. That he was able to thread a couple balls over the middle and hit Floyd on a medium length touchdown pass only signals that we might be able to win with this kid.
I think we have assumed that with Crist the offense would open up and we'd be able to do more things. But we've never really stretched the field with Crist since day one---so maybe Rees is the better option at this point, right?
Either way the QB position isn't terribly exciting. Rees still threw two picks (yes, one wasn't his fault) and I know for a certain that a team like LSU will eat up an immobile QB who lives off short throws.
Maybe Crist turns out to be a huge bust, but that doesn't necessarily mean Rees will be anything great either.
There are a lot of question marks right now at QB, and that's not a great sign for this offense.
Still, Notre Dame racked up 508 yards of offense and 6.5 yards per play.
6.5 yards per play is the second best mark under Brian Kelly, just like the defense.
Take away the turnovers and we played surprisingly well.
Third down conversions were not good (5 for 14) and the running game was abandoned, but that's a symptom of getting down early.
The offense deserves the most criticism for the loss, but it's not like they were ineffective out there. Remove a couple of the comedy of error turnovers and we might be singing their praises after a 10 point victory.
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QUICK BULLET POINTS:
- Michael Floyd is a machine and nearly unstoppable. It's a shame if he doesn't get adequate quarterbacking in his final season because his talent is so ridiculous and unbelievable at times.
- Cierre Wood swiftly answered all his critics with a great game as well. His final numbers didn't end up too out of this world because Notre Dame stopped running the ball in the second half, but he was well on his way to a 150+ rushing game. Still, he got 100 yards rushing (which no one did last year) and he looks to be a tremendous playmaker for this offense.
- I'm not piling on Riddick, but he has to play better. Much, much, much better. He honestly has nowhere to go but up.
- TJ Jones finished with 6 catches and 58 yards---numbers that any of us would have gladly taken from him, but he made two huge mistakes in this game that cost the team dearly. This offense needs playmakers to step up at receiver and elsewhere. Sometimes the numbers he puts up won't be good enough if they are accompanied with crucial mental errors.
- Do you want to talk about lack of depth at receiver? How about zero catches outside of the starting three guys, for what seems like the 10th time during the Kelly era. We all thought we would trot out receivers galore in this offense and it's just not happening. Kelly must really not like his other options at receiver, that seems coldly evident.
- Eifert went out and did his thing (6 for 93) and played well. Average those numbers out for a full season and he blows Kyle Rudolph's numbers right out of the water.
- I trust Floyd, Wood, and Eifert on this offense. Everyone else is either far too inconsistent or has much more to prove.
- The offensive line played pretty well. We put them in a tough spot having to throw the ball too much in the second half, and Dever was getting abused at times on the right edge, but they offered good enough pass protection for the quarterbacks. What's more, when the offense was more balanced they were opening big enough holes for Wood to run through.
- Anyone else kind of want to play weaker teams to open the season in the future? Even though Navy has our number lately and it's a game off American soil, playing the Middies to start out next year sounds better. So does Temple the following year.
- The defense still is not fast enough on the edges. Maybe it's a product of worrying about a mobile QB like B.J. Daniels, but USF was able to move the ball on the perimeter too much. They ran the ball outside the tackles decently and there were too many yards given up on plays that a faster defense would shut down.
- To add to that, the pass rush was not very good either. There were a couple sacks and a few tackles made in the backfield, but certainly not the increased amount of pressure we thought we'd see. Daniels more or less stayed pretty comfortable in the pocket---although many USF plays were designed for quick throws or to move the QB out of the pocket after the snap.
- However, the defense is really good at stopping the run, especially up the middle. Giving up only 126 yards at 3.0 YPC is really good against a team with a very mobile quarterback. Big bonus points for the defense there.
- Overall, the defense still has some glaring weaknesses that more seasoned teams will exploit. Still not dominant edge rushers (Fleming---not a whole lot from him, seemed to be double teamed a lot), the other linebacker spot opposite Te'o can be a liability, and I still don't think our safeties are that great.
- Many people have noticed that when Rees was leveled late in the game and looked like he was possibly injured, that it was Everett Golson who grabbed his helmet and was ready to go in. Not that we really need to get into the quarterback depth right now, but you wonder if Andrew Hendrix is ever going to get a shot at Notre Dame.
- The freshmen didn't make any huge plays, but held their own. It's a slow process.
- Louis Nix might have been one of the best defenders on the field, for both teams. I wasn't sure how many snaps he took but it seemed like he was playing an awful lot, and making a big impact at times. He's probably the biggest athletic freak on the team.
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After a day of digesting the outcome, I still firmly believe that this is a very good team that is going to win 9 or 10 games. The quarterback issue is problematic, but even still I know this offense can move the ball.
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I don't think we should be concerned with the mental errors moving forward, if only because the team was very disciplined and mentally strong last year. Although the Irish played an incredibly unfocused game after a summer of Kelly saying they were very focused, it was just one game.
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If we see a lot of the same problems next Saturday, then we should start to worry. But I seriously doubt that will happen.
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This game totally sucked. It always sucks to lose the opening game.
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Now, let's hope the team picks itself up and beats the hell out of Michigan and exorcises some demons.
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Ughhh, where is the reset button?
I will keep this breif. The effort from the team was very Weisian. They played way too tight, in a way you think they were ranked #1 in the country or something. They need to loosen up a bit. You can’ t hang this on BK or the coaches. They totally outplayed USF on offense and defense. You stink in special teams and are -5 in turnovers, you don’t expect to win. Simple as that.
The Good:
The offense can really move the ball against a pretty athletic defense (albeit undersized).
Wood is the real deal
Floyd is a beast
The freshman got some snaps under their belt
Bennett Jackson continues to be a kick coverage superstar
The Bad:
Theo Riddick (sorry bud, loosen up out there)
Ben Turk (you might lose your punting job soon)
Darius Fleming (you lost the edge on contain too many times early in the game)
Taylor Dever (you looked overmatched at times, even though you have 50 pounds and plenty of inches on the opposition)
The Ugly:
5 turnovers, including 3 inside the opponent’s 10 yard line. The other two were basically inside the Irish 30.
Penalties, penalties, and penalties
My picks of Georgia and Oregon. Georgia isn’t very good despite their talent (see ya later Mark Richt) and Oregon doesn’t look anything like last year. I put them at about 8 wins on the year. Also, where did all the offense come from for LSU? Oh wait, from Oregon turnovers…
I don't think it ever really mattered who played QB
I certainly felt like Crist was the guy and wanted to see him succeed, but if he’s not leading the team to wins….

Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 4, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Keith Arnold said it best
Crist is like Cougar in Top Gun. He’s holding on too tight. As corny as that might sound on the surface it actually holds a lot of real world truth. Kelly alluded to it as well in his Sunday presser.
“Yeah, we would like more guys to be at ease with the game. Tommy goes in there, and the game is not difficult for him. He’s obviously got to get better in a lot of areas, but he doesn’t go into the game and appear at any time to be overwhelmed or anxious. We had some guys that were a little anxious in their first game. He doesn’t have that. He’s always seemed very comfortable running out on the field. That’s never been — it’s always been a strength of his I should say.”
Short version is this. Regardless which of the two has the most natural talent, can make all the throws etc. some guys are just mentally more suited to perform when it matters the most. As much as I am a fan of Crist as a person he has never displayed this mentality.
In so many ways this entire discussion reminds me of the Simms vs. Applewhite discussion that was going on around Texas several years ago. The arguments were the same.
As far as I’m concerned you have to play Rees at this point. As much as that sucks for Crist, it is what it is. Rees gives us the best chance of winning football games.
whiskey
www.onefootdown.com
good post
your Top Gun analogy hits the nail on the head. He has the skills but he does not play with confidence. Crist started off brilliantly on the opening drive, playing like the QB me and and others expected him to be, but after the 14 point turnaround on Gray’s fumble, Crist appeared to lose his confidence. Rees, despite coming in 16 points down, played with intelligence and confidence, like a coach’s kid. The team responds well with him at the helm, and he should start against Michigan.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
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by lookingdeadred on Sep 5, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point. Rees had the confidence and intelligence to get us back into contention while Crist looked like a deer in headlights after the first drive
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"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold or cynical, but I am. So that's how it comes out."
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by montanajagsfan on Sep 5, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand this was an attempt at humor
but Crist, who has worked hard to overcome two knee injuries to be the man at ND, does not deserve your derision.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Sep 5, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes let us talk about Georgia and Oregon
So that we feel a little better.
Didn’t get to watch a ton of the UGA game, but I’m not too surprised by the outcome. Yeah they recruit well and everything but they don’t have the experienced horses right now to compete at the highest level. Boise has some horses though.
Watched more of the LSU game. It played out exactly how I thought it would, minus the Oregon turnovers. LSU’s defense is scary, and Les was more than happy to just pound the ball all night long and mix in a couple timely throws.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 4, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Georgia has talent, but with crappy playcalling
It reminds me of nothing as much as ND 07.
Atrocious line play with a couple lucky bombs. Complicated X&O schemes that require every single person to execute, without the talent to accomplish that. An inexplicable refusal to use tight ends to their full potential.
Crunch. No, wait, Beefheart. No, wait, Kangaroo.
and Boise State is a lot better than many want to believe
that game was no upset
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Sep 5, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Notre Dame's Best Coach in the Last 15 Years
was never allowed to lead the Irish back to the Promised Land. Too bad ND’s President was so pious that he disqualified the best coaching candidate for a personal embellishment of resume padding that could have been privately dealt with and an opportunity for penance given. But noooooo, ND’s self-righteous president took it public and used the opportunity to sanctimoniously preach about ND’s self-proclaimed moral superiority.
Coach O’Leary would have had ND beasting for the last 15 years the Dome suffered from coaching disasters, would have restored the program to prominence and saved you many ten’s of millions of dollars in mis-spent coaching dollars and buyouts.
The same George O'Leary who is barely over .500 as a coach?
And whose face is..

Redder at 2 o’clock on a Tuesday than Kelly’s on Saturday?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 4, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by burger23 on Sep 5, 2011 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
really??? Wow!
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Sep 5, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on
This HAS to be trolling. I think.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 5, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If it is, I applaud him for his originality and creativity
Bravo, sir!
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This is a good analysis.
I was panicking during the game but after calming down, I think we’ll be alright.
My only issue is with this sentence here:
That he was able to thread a couple balls over the middle and hit Floyd on a medium length touchdown pass only signals that we might be able to win with this kid.
We won with him last year. Tommy Rees led us to wins against Utah, Southern Cal (in LA, in the rain), and Miami. He was a major player in our strong November. We already knew he could win.
I think it was a mistake to name Crist the starter when Rees was the guy with the most reasons for us being a stronger team in November than we were in September. Rees has to be the guy going forward.
Crunch. No, wait, Beefheart. No, wait, Kangaroo.
I gained more confidence in Rees after Saturday
Despite his “4-0” finish last year, that confidence wasn’t there for me following the end of last year.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 4, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's pretty impossible for any of us not on the team or coaching it to have any clue who was "better"
Rees had a lot more defensive help last year than Crist did. Kelly changed his play calling to take pressure off Rees. There were reasons Rees won besides “Rees is better”, so any of us could have made a case either way.
Kelly and staff, however, should have been seeing this all along. Not sure why they wouldn’t have, other than Crist perhaps being impressive when tackling isn’t live and he doesn’t feel worried (subconsciously) about his knees. Regardless, when the bullets are flying, it’s now obvious who needs to be the starter. Sucks for Dayne, but this isn’t Pop Warner where everyone gets to play.
"Oh Hey Dayne! Nice Eyepatch!"
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 5, 2011 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Rees had little impact on us having a good November last year.
The defense got better. The running game got better. Rees, statistically, was about even with Crist except for interceptions per attempt, which were MUCH higher. Remember, he turned the ball over FOUR TIMES against USC so it’s a huge stretch to say he won that game for us. The defense, and a wide open dropped pass by USC, won that game for us, not Tommy Rees.
That being said – at this point I’d lean more towards Rees as a starter but I wouldn’t be angry if Crist started at Michigan.
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The people who suggest Brian Kelly should not curse are the reason the rest of us created profanities. - Spencer Hall
A few thoughts
Personally, I am embarrassed about two episodes in the game.
First, the booing that seemed to accompany the Irish leaving the field at the end of the half.
Second, Brian Kelly’s yelling at his players.
Too many of the Irish players played awful in the first half – mistakes, penalties, miscues that put points on the board for the opponent. Let’s say it was a small number of players and that the vast majority played well. Have we gotten to the point where we express our displeasure about any negative outcome on the entire team and coaching staff? Can we not live with the team not fulfilling our expectations? Suit up if you can do better. I was upset at the snowball throwing incident. Next time, nicely escort those who feel they need to boo the team out of the stadium and leave room for those who aren’t filled with criticism.
I have watched Chip Kelly for a couple of years approach his players who made a mistake. He confronts them, but offers support, sometimes laughs and slaps them on the rear. BK may well have the best interests of his players at heart and the full support of his team. He, like me, may have been pretty upset that a fair ball catch could be muffed. But time and again, he was yelling at his players, red-faced. Maybe he did this at Cincy, but everything at ND is more apparent. Maybe he is a perfectionist. He may be everything we need at Notre Dame. But not only the whole team but the nation can see this. It just did not seem like constructive criticism. Consider taking some of it behind closed doors, Brian.
I am open to criticism that this is the blogging equivalent of booing. For the rest, I choose silence.
by Michael Collins on Sep 5, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions
I think this is really a multifaceted leadership discussion.
There are a ton of things that play into this and seeing this “issue” (BK yelling at the players) really come to the forefront in the last 24 hours has my wheels turning. I should really try to capture all of my thoughts in a post in the next couple of days.
I have so many thoughts and observations on this topic that I could probably write a book. I have a fair amount of insight on this topic simply due to my background and day job. I will attempt to capture the basics in a couple of thousand words so that we can kick it around this week while we are getting ready to run rule Michigan.
whiskey
www.onefootdown.com
I'll look forward to the article, Whiskey
and may contribute a comment or two. I agree this is a leadership question.
Both the booing and the yelling served to separate those people (Kelly and fans) from the mistakes of some players. Whether those actions contribute to uniting a team under common goals or just serves as a negative expression that insulates them from an unwanted outcome is a critical question.
Secondly, I have watched BK build a team out of a bunch of individuals and overcome quite a number of hurdles that kept previous coaches’ teams from uniting. I imagine only so much can be individually productive. Some historical perspective might be useful. If we had input that successful teams under a fiery leader like Holtz really disliked him, but still won, would that make a difference?
Is the ultimate goal winning no matter what or is how you behave more important – as a player, as a coach, as a fan? The challenge at Notre Dame is to do both.
by Michael Collins on Sep 6, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
WHARGARBBL

People forget, the last coach we had that did anything on the field had a temper as well, to the point of putting refs in headlocks (demonstrating a hold, but still). I’m less concerned that Kelly might throw out an f-bomb and offend poor old Aunty Sally, and more concerned that Crist isn’t improved AT ALL from last year. If he doesn’t get things together, it’s his failure to make the team improve and win, not his temper, that we need to worry about.
"Oh Hey Dayne! Nice Eyepatch!"
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 5, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Both episodes didn't bother me, so we don't agree here.
The booing didn’t bother me because, well…I think I would have been more upset if they didn’t boo. Not that I wanted the fans to boo, but I know I would have been upset about our quiet crowds if they just let them trot off the field in silence. This is big time football, and we can only hope that the booing served as motivation to shut the crowd up.
Kelly’s yelling…again doesn’t bother me. A lot of people always say that they were coached by a yeller and I am one of those people. Maybe Kelly could do things differently, but we don’t know what he’s doing behind close doors or in practice.
As long as he’s not physically harming the kids, I think he can yell away.
Truth be told, I was kind of laughing at how red his face was. But then I was kind of worried that he might have a heart attack or something.
It’s somewhat embarrassing but I don’t think we need to get into trying to change the way Kelly coaches and all that. We’re going to take ribbing from other fans, might as well embrace it I say, because the ribbing isn’t going to stop any time soon.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 5, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind the yelling if it worked
But it doesn’t seem to be. Has there been any game where Kelly has blown a gasket and it’s led to improved performance? The main guys I remember seeing get an earful were Crist, Jones, and Wood – none of which played better afterwards. He says after the game “we would like more guys to be at ease with the game,” but his actions only seem to make Crist tighten up and throw like he’s scared to death of making a mistake. I never see him get on Rees’ case like he does Crist’s – might that be part of the difference in how comfortable they look?
As far as the physical part, he got closer than I like to see with Wood. After the time out on the two point conversion, Kelly was screaming at pretty much anyone and everyone. Wood had his back turned talking to someone else, and Kelly slapped/punched him in the shoulder to get his attention. I was not a fan of that moment.
There's being mad, and then there's being mad . . .
I was at the game, so I didn’t see as much of Kelly’s sideline routine, but some of the pictures seem like he may have gone from “football coach understandably mad” to “irrationally and counterproductively made.” I’d really only expect that level of anger towards an official, honestly . . .
Okay, let’s start with the QB. Rees has to start. There’s no way Kelly can go back to Crist after Rees operated the offense so much more efficiently. I’ve been a Crist supporter all offseason, I’ve even said that Rees is the second coming of Matt Lovecchio and might have to transfer. Well…I was wrong. Dead wrong. Rees throws the ball with timing and accuracy, and what that does is it keeps the offense on schedule. This team struggles to convert 3rd downs when they’re greater than 5 yards, but under that is very manageable. Rees completes all of those short passes that keeps the offense in 3rd and short situations. Crist continues to be inconsistent with his accuracy, starting 6-8 yesterday and finishing 1-7. That kills this offense, and forces it to go into a rut. Rees’ consistency keeps things on schedule. And frankly, he throws a better deep ball than Crist because his catchable. His first TD to Floyd was the best pass a Notre Dame QB has made since Clausen was here. He threw it to the perfect spot with perfect touch. He also threw some nice passes up the seam to Eifert and Riddick. What I love most about Rees, though, is he intiuitively understands who this team’s best players are, and is almost stubborn in his insistence on getting them the ball. Crist has never developed a connection with Floyd, but Rees comes in and Floyd’s catching a ton of passes, and now Eifert is involved, and Riddick and Jones get some opportunities as well. So yeah…there is no way this team can go back to Crist, barring injury. Rees is not a mega-talent by any standard, but he’s the right player for this team. Honestly, I haven’t been this wrong about a player in a long, long time. Maybe ever.
I loved the effort from the defense. You can nitpick some of the stuff that was happening on the perimeter, but keeping this game within reach was no easy feat with all of the turnovers happening. I don’t know what it’s like going on the field knowing there’s no margin for error, but that was the entire second half, and unfortunately they did break once with a TD drive, but otherwise it was outstanding. The only reason they didn’t get more pressure on Daniels was because USF steadfastly refused to allow him to lose the game. Almost everything was short, designed to get the ball out of his hands quickly with limited decision making. That Jonas Gray fumble was a killer for many reasons, but right up there is because it allowed USF to play with the lead all day and not forcing them to put the game in Daniels’ hands, where he’s liable to throw it away. You can always play better, but 250 yards of offense allowed is quite reasonable. Daniels threw for less than 5 yards per attempt.
Theo Riddick gets way too much praise for a guy who just hasn’t proven it on the field. Where are all of the big plays everyone talks about? I must have blocked them from my memory, because I don’t recall them. Outside of last year’s game against Michigan St., when has he ever looked natural as a receiver? Everything seems to be a challenge for him, whether it’s catching passes across the middle or fielding punts. The guy was a disaster yesterday, and he needs to prove it before I start calling him one of our top playmakers.
Speaking of disasters…Ben Turk everybody! They could have brought in people from the stands to punt and gotten just as good results. Am I crazy or is he the worst punter in FBS? Maybe I’m too close to the situation, but his punts yesterday were awful. I can’t believe a team that fancies itself a BCS contender would field such a lousy punter. He looks like someone who belongs at Western Kentucky or something. Kelly cannot keep putting him out there…can he? He’s costing this team valuable field position, not to mention his low line drives make for very returnable punts.
Cierre Wood is outstanding. He has to be the best RB this team has had since, what, Julius Jones? Before him even? I loved Darius Walker to death, but he didn’t have this kind of ability. We’ve always known Wood had the speed and elusiveness, but yesterday he showed power and vision that could make him an elite back. I loved the way he finished runs, much stronger than last season.
Is anyone else just tired of this happening every single season? This team has, inexplicably, lost to Pitt, Syracuse, UConn and USF over the past four seasons, aka half of the Big East. How can we call ourselves a potential BCS team when we can’t even beat the Big East? And yet, in none of those games would you actually say Notre Dame was outplayed. They continually outplay their opponents, and yet somehow lose. It doesn’t even matter who the coach is. Brian Kelly went 12-0 at freaking Cincinatti, and yet he’s now 8-6 at Notre Dame. This is such a common theme, I shouldn’t even be surprised by it anymore. “Notre Dame outplays opponent, still loses.” Fourth consecutive season this has happened. I’m really getting tired of it.
This is the most talented team Notre Dame has had in a long time. This is better than the 2005 team, because this team is better defensively. And yet it’s already must-win time in week 2. I don’t think I can live in a world in which THIS team is 0-2.
Oh, one last thought. A couple of week ago when you guys did your top-25 player lists, I felt that Zack Martin should be 3rd on the list to Floyd and Te’o. I stand by that after his performance yesterday. I don’t think he got beat a single time in pass protection, and the run blocking was outstanding for the most part. That guy is the real deal. Taylor Dever, on the other hand, is not as good. The offensive line as a whole, though, is impressive. You don’t gain 500 yards of offense otherwise.
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by Mouth of the South on Sep 5, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree 100% Frank
I cannot believe that I was this wrong about Crist. He just looked totally lost out there. He could not run the offense. I was also very wrong about Rees. For the most part he executed. You cannot go back to Crist next week.
You also cannot expect more out of our D.
I respect what Murtaugh is saying, but I’m not az optimistic as murtaugh. They were supposed to be ready to play. Offense and special teams clearly weren’t. The boys let an inferior team come in to our house and escape with a win. Its just more of the same, and we were expecting something different. Some of the players must have been reading their own press clippings. They forgot that they had to go out there and do it. You can forgive one or two turnovers, but we go out there and turn it over three times in the red zone. Special teams was a disaster. Kelly thought that the boys were focused. Don’t alll those turnovers and awful special teams play display a lack of focus? They just weren’t ready for prime time.
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by Mouth of the South on Sep 5, 2011 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Am i dissapointed in the loss...hell yeah, is it the
end of the season….hell no. I will take these defensive and offensive stats every game for the rest of the season.
The defense was awesome, gave up less yardage this game than they did in any of the final 4 games last year and they only gave up 16 points….thats BCS caliber defensive stats. What isnt BCS caliber is the personal fouls, the facemasks or interference penalties that keep drives alive for the opposition…….thats fixable.
Offense was also very good, 508 yards of offense is great, and that was against the 17th best defense in the FBS last year……BUT…you just cant have turnovers especially 3 big ones inside the 5…..ND left a potential 12 to 28 points on the field. Again this is all fixable its not like you have to revamp the team…..just more focus.
Special teams absolutely suck in every part of their game. Its time for Riddick to go from being..“what a good player with a lot of potential”…to….“what a good player thats productive”…….this unit needs a lot of work.
Jones has got to stop crying and blaming his drops on the QB.
Nix played great, the O-line played very good opening up holes for Wood and protecting the QB
Eifert looked real good.
The QB situation is a mess in my opinion and I felt that way going into the game. I never had total confidence in Crist and less in Rees. Rees did ok when he came in but he’s got to figure a way to find other recieviers than just Floyd, and to make better decisions. On the 2 point conversion try if ND had a QB in that situation that can run, oh say like, Hendrix or Golson, and can make a zone read….they convert…with legs or a pass.
I feel bad for Crist, I just think the young man has played his last game as starter for the Irish and will drop behind Hendrix in the 3rd slot….I’m hoping Golson redshirts. Just guessing but I think Rees will get a lot of snaps in practice with Hendrix right there getting his share as the number 2 and sometime during the next 3 or 4 weeks Hendrix will be starting. The Irish need that spread type QB to run this offense.
As far as the skunkbear game goes, yeah its a must win to me, and I believie the Irish will rock….IMO USF is a better all around team than the skunkbears and ND “rocked” them statistically on both sides of the ball….does anyone think that the Irish will make as many mistakes again as they did with USF….never.
you might want to refuse the turnover stats
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by lookingdeadred on Sep 5, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Crist looked really good the first drive.
After that he played pretty poorly, and then stood on the sideline like a retarded zombie.
Here’s the thing that bothers me most: others have pointed it out, but once he was benched Crist just stood there and gawked, with his left hand holding his shoulder pad like a safety blanket. He needs to understand that even if you get pulled, you need to be there for your teammates. A mannequin would have been more emotive.
No way you can win a game when you lose the turnover battle so lopsidedly, and in such heartbreaking manner. We lost (I think) three turnovers within their ten yard line, and then a muffed punt. All four of those are just backbreakers in college football, where momentum is so important.
Frustrating, frustrating game. Let’s take it out on Michigan.
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There’s a lot of talk about how Crist doesn’t seem to be able to handle the various stresses of a game, even though he may have more talent than Rees.
But if he would be the better quarterback, things being equal, the coach needs to find a way to make things equal: find ways to introduce stresses into his practice routine. Make him risk hits; make him run entire series instead of single-play reps; do something to teach the kid mental toughness.
Definitely agree with you
I was being a little flippant with my prior post, but it stems from the frustration of having this fantastically talented kid who at times looks brilliant and at times looks like he just wandered onto the field off the street – completely confused. If there is any way to get Crist prepared for shit happening, the coaches ought to try it.
Now whether that’s making him take hits in practice or what, that wouldn’t work all season obviously but it’s not a bad short term idea.
Opening Games
Anyone else kind of want to play weaker teams to open the season in the future? Even though Navy has our number lately and it’s a game off American soil, playing the Middies to start out next year sounds better. So does Temple the following year.
Here’s the thing: we have got to stop scheduling one-off games against bottom feeders and mid-majors. These games are turning into nightmares every year, because the UConns and USFs of the world view their one trip to South Bend as a chance to prove something, and there’s a huge emotional mismatch.
We need to change out the one-off games for long-term relationships with one or two more Purdue-like opponents. Northwestern, Illinois, Ole Miss, Washington State . . . someone we’ve played before, someone who isn’t generally very good, but also someone who isn’t out trying to prove to the world that they’re a legitimate football school who can beat Notre Dame. We’re not here to help new programs secure legitimacy. We’re here to win football games, and the current system of one-off games gets in the way.
I really like that idea.
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by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 5, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea. The one-off games to start the season are complete and utter nightmares
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by montanajagsfan on Sep 5, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't necessarily think this is a bad idea
But let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that we lost this game because USF was fired up and had something to prove. The Irish were far better than USF and just couldn’t get out of their own way.
Usually is ridiculous to say the second game of the season is a must win, but
the Michigan game is pretty darn close to a must win if the Irish are to be a BCS bowl team. 0-2 is too big a hole to climb out of.
Rees must start. I have always been a Crist guy, but Rees is clearly the more poised QB. The team plays better when he is in there. Rees must start.
Wood is a monster, but they must still get Gray some touches. Wood cannot go it alone and the next RBs on the depth chart are totally unproven.
Riddick and Jones must step their game. Floyd is a monster and draws so much attention, that the other WRs draw single coverage most of the time. That gives them a chance to make big plays and they need to start doing just that.
OL played well especially when they were executing the game plan which was a mix of run and pass. They did okay when they had to go into pass mostly mode, too.
The defense was pretty good. They only gave up one long TD scoring drive against a pretty good offensive team. Nix was the defensive player of the game. If he can keep up this play, the defense will be a good one. They will need to step up their play however this week. Michigan’s offense will be very confident heading into this game based on their success last year against the Irish. ND’s defense needs an early TO and/or a big hit or two on Robinson to put some doubt in Michigan’s mind.
And special teams need to show up this week. What a complete disaster they were against USF.
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well there is Va. Tech from last year . . .
started 0-2 and made the orange bowl. Granted, they had the conference in.
In all seriousness, it definitely feels like it’s a must-win. I think for the players, it’s a must win in order to really feel like they are in fact moving toward winning championships. The roller-coaster season last year ended so well that the perception across the board was that momentum was in our favor. Got to win against Michigan to save some of that feeling, otherwise we could be in for 2010 redux. Only thing about that latter possibility is that Kelly no longer has the advantage of telling the players “buy into the system and we’ll win.” 0-2 would be brutal for team morale.
Jones and Riddick
Looktoo much like a non-senior Brian Smith. They’re the first to celebrate and open up their mouths when they consistenly miss easy plays, lose focus, and in general fail to execute. Maybe I’m being too harsh, but it does seem apparent that they lack focus.
Cierre Wood definitely showed me something, but one thing disappointed me. It was after he had racked up about 60 yards after like 8 straight carries in the first quarter. He’s sucking wind. He looks over at the sideline and asks for a sub. Which he doesn’t get because Jonas Gray had just fumbled. Im thinking about Jukius Jones. Julius only got better as the game went on. I don’t ever remember him sucking wind that hard. He was ready to carry the ball every play of the game if he needed to. If Cierre wants to be that elite back, he needs to be ready to answer the bell every down. Maybe Im being hypercritical of one of our biggest offensive playmakers. Or maybe Im just expecting elite play out of a good player.
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by Mouth of the South on Sep 5, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You're complaining because a guy was tired after 8 straight carries and needed a play out?
You may not REMEMBER Julius Jones doing that, but that’s because Ty was too stupid to keep him in the game, and kept putting Ryan Grant in instead. Adrian Peterson would need a play off after 8 straight carries. 8 straight plays on the field, yeah, I can see that. But 8 straight “here’s the ball, now run” plays? No back does that. If he’s NOT coming out, something is wrong, because he won’t last until November at that pace.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 6, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Julius also played for Davie
We may not want to REMEMBER that either, but Double J was about 200% of Davie’s offense. I don’t think that Wood really had 8 straight carries, but if he did they were broken up by a SF possession. Cierre wants to be a premier back, and I think he has that ability. I’m just sayin… the premier backs will carry the ball all the way to the end zone if need be. If they’re running that well that they’re needed every down, then the offensive line probably has the defense back on their heels anyway, and the defense should be more tired than you are.
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by Mouth of the South on Sep 6, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If he didn't have 8 straight carried, then okay
I’m not going to go back and look at the drive charts. But yeah, I would say that there are a very few number of backs who can handle taking every snap and running with it with no blows.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 6, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened was...
Wood gained 31 yards on the screen pass.
Gray rush for 1
Crist to Floyd for 26
Wood 4 straight runs
Gray fumble
It is important to note that Wood was dinged up on one of those 4 carries, not sure which….but he got up slowly and was drilled in the neck.
I’m all for Wood carrying the ball as much as he can, but he can’t do it all. 8 straight carries is a bit much, and if you’re NOT sucking wind and need someone else to come in, you’re either not running hard enough or too stupid to let someone more healthy come in for you.
Also, I apologize for jinxing Gray’s fumble. I hope that Wood always gets the goal line carries (which he would have if he wasn’t beat on the first drive I’m sure). We tend to fall in love with the bigger back at the goal line, but sometimes the smaller quicker guys are more dangerous.
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by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 6, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus H, guys
I pulled the “eight straight carries” out of thin air. I intended it as hyperbole, but I clearly fell flat on my face. Maybe “a hundred straight carries” would have been a more effective metaphor.
Anyways, the coaching staff agreed with me because they didn’t give Mr. Wood the requested blow. Okay, either they agreed with me or they didn’t have a choice because Gray had just fumbled and they didn’t want to put in a true freshmen yet. In any event, they needed Wood to shoulder a little more of the load than he looked ready to carry.
The worst thing about the Jonas Gray fumble was that you could not have scripted a worse “here we go again” moment for the program. A dominant, methodical drive capped off by a fumble and a 14-point swing the other guys’ way. I still say “son of a [expletive deleted]” whenever I think about it.
The reality is still that there were a lot of positives, and we just almost beat a good team despite 5 turnovers. And this was probably a better team than Michigan, though, playing at their place at night, not to mention the rivalry deal, adds a few elements that were not in SF’s favor.
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by Mouth of the South on Sep 6, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn't mean to latch onto that.
I didn’t see the whole game, so took it as literal. My apologies. I’ll bake a Wolverine cake to make up for it.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 6, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Freshman play...
Wasn’t GAIII lined up in the backfield in the first red zone series as a blocking back? I thought that was interesting formation…
I'll have to go back and check but I don't think so
Carlo and Steve Filer lined up as blockers and did a decent job
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by burger23 on Sep 7, 2011 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That long TD drive by USF was when the defense needed
to step up the most and it didnt…especially after the missed FG, they needed to make a stop….thats their only failing in the game…letting that drive use time off the clock and getting 7 points. It was the same thing last year at UM…go ahead TD and then turn around and let them have that long drive to win the game.
TD drive
That was the only drive that the defense couldn’t come up with an answer. I don’t know if they were just spent by that point or what happened, but I think that drive was the one where USF converted their only 2 third downs on the day (and one where Calabrese had the back for a 5 yard loss but didn’t make the tackle).
I really thought you guys had a chance to get back into it after the 2 hour rain delay
The entire crowd seemed to come back and get really into it, and the defense looked great. Honestly, there was a LOT of derpage the entire weekend (my own team had bouts of trouble putting away Youngstown State, for crying out loud!)
Here’s to hoping Kelly gets his players ready for Michigan. It took them a long while to finally get in control of Western, so that’s a good sign!
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by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 5, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
OH YEAH? WELL SCREW MICHIGAN STA-
…wait, you’re not trolling? This is a serious post? I….I……I don’t know what to say.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 5, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't get a chance to watch any of the MSU game
What was going on? Why was YSU able to hang in there for so long?
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by burger23 on Sep 5, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we didn't just shoot ourselves in the foot and cut off the other foot
We then shot the amputated foot for good measure.
by long time listener on Sep 5, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
i do not see us beating michigan
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I don't think they see it either. I hope they persist in that mindset.
We thoroughly outplayed a good team, but made critical mistakes. Now, I’m not saying we’ll go out and beat Michigan—I have no idea. But we’re not a bad team, we just need to lock things down. Had Jonas not fumbled, you could make the argument that we win in a cake walk, momentum being as important as it is in the game. Might have, might not have, but it’s not a case of missing things, it’s a case of not putting it all together at the right time.
Will we put it together against Michigan? Who knows. But we might.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 6, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they have a pretty good shot at winning
But there’s a lot of problems to scrub out in just one week, most of which are between the ears.
By the way
I do think that ND wins that game if Jonas doesn’t fumble. I also think they win that game if T.J. Jones is looking for a pass on the first drive of the second half. Like you said, though, that’s not the whole issue.
True.
We could rip off 11 straight and make the National Championship game. Maybe this week will be last year’s Utah. USF is definitely a better team than Michigan.
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by Mouth of the South on Sep 6, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The Red Face Test
Honestly, I don’t have that much of an issue with BK’s yelling at players. Does he need to get that worked up to get his point across? Probably not. Lou used to grab players by the facemask to yell at them. I will take this over the Ty face any day.
The real issue is with the producer at NBC having to show it every single time it happens. How often do they show the opposing coach yelling? How often do other channels show it? Rarely if ever. Is BK the only football coach that yells? Methinks not…
As for the booing at the end of the first half, that was unacceptable. We often forget that these are just kids and will make mistakes. It is part of the appeal of college football.
some UM and Wersren Mich stats
Total yds…….UM 288, WM 279
Passing…..UM 98—9/13, WM 183—22/31
Rushing….UM 190, WM 98
Time of poss…..UM 18:15, WM 25:18……game was called with time remaining
Final Score….UM 34, WM 10…UM’s offense put up 20 points, their defense 14 points.
ND played a far superior team than the skunkbears and put up great numbers both offensively and defensively…just forget the turnovers and penalties. The Irish, IMO, are going to win big this coming week, they definitly will have much more focus….GO IRISH
A few points..
At this point I don’t get why people still think Crist is the better QB. Rees made a couple REALLY nice throws, notably one to Floyd, where Floyd was double covered and Rees dropped the ball right between the Corner and Safety. Also the throw to Eifert was very nice. Rees seems to realize that Floyd is unstoppable and is always willing to get him the ball more. He also operated the offense when it was obvious that ND had given up running the ball, which makes it pretty impressive to me.
The D was great in my mind. The final TD by SFU came after a HORRIBLE pass interference call on 3rd down. The TD was even a broken play that was obviously a QB draw and then a horrible pass that just worked out right for SFU. My biggest problem with the D came more from the coaching stand point. They made no adjustment to the fact the SFU ran square out after square out after square out right at the 1st down marker. Where is the press coverage there? It was ridiculous to the point where my buddy and I were literally calling the play before it happened!
More coaching issues. Wood and the O line were amazing. I know we were down and needed to come back, but I see no reason why we needed to completely abandon the run. Wood was ripping off HUGE chunks of yardage and provided us with a pretty unstoppable O. Either they pack the box to stop Wood and leave Floyd 1 on 1, or they double Floyd and let Wood gash them. ND didn’t seem to play to their strengths on O as much as they should have.
I disagree about the pass interference call
Gray made contact with the receiver and had his back to the football the entire time. That’s going to get called every single time.
It was one of those calls that I don't like to see in football.
I’d have to watch it again, but it didn’t seem like there was much contact. I’m pretty certain there was no holding or pushing.
The whole “never turned his head around and made a play on the ball” argument—-I hate that. I know they always call it but it seems silly to me.
Too often I think these flags bail out poor throws. If I’m standing facing a receiver and have him covered and the ball is underthrown, why should it matter if the corner makes a play on the ball? It’s almost like they call pass interference for the corner getting in the way.
Not that Floyd and other Irish receivers haven’t benefited from these flags, but those kind of PI irk me a lot of the times.
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by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 6, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No faceguarding penalty in college football
should sum up your argument there. CC looked terrible in coverage on the TD. If either Gray or CC turns around, it is a pick and a touchback. This game will haunt fans much more than the team (I hope) because it essentially comes down to one play here or there…
calls you don't like to see ... you mean obvious ND penalties in the end zone
I don’t think any ND fans like to see those penalties, but that does not mean they weren’t penalties.
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by lookingdeadred on Sep 7, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Right
The ball was underthrown. It’s really hard for a DB not to get called for PI in that situation.
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My view..
I was watching the game with one of my best friends who likes nothing more then to see me seething mad at ND and he roots against ND on purpose (can’t blame him cause I do the same thing to him just so we can rag on each other) and even he admitted it was a horrible call. So for him at admit as much to me showed me that it wasn’t just my blind allegiance.
"How dare you have good coverage and force the receiver to come back
…and climb over your back for the ball."
That’s what goes through my head when I see a lot of those flags on calls like this.
But again, I have to re-watch it.
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by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 6, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hate it too
The rules are the rules, and the rules say that was PI. Certainly not a bad job by Gray, but that gets called almost every time.
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I don't know...
I will have to see the play again (I was pretty blinded by rage at that point) but if IIRC the receiver was already in the air headed toward the back of the endzone, and Gray made minor hand contact, but no body contact, and didn’t impede the WR from getting to the ball because he was already headed backwards.
watch the replay without your blue and gold goggles this time
if a USF defender did that to a ND receiver, and no penalty was called you would be as red in the face as BK was most of the game. It was an obvious penalty.
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by lookingdeadred on Sep 7, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The defense drove me crazy
I watched a replay of the game last night and Diaco had Blanton playing WAY back on his guy, like 10 yards off of him. USF responded with some bubble screens that got big yards, though I’m not sure why they didn’t do almost every play. Then in the second half when they needed some stops, the corners were still playing off and didn’t even challenge the receivers even after they crossed the first down mark, leading to easy conversions. I don’t understand why Diaco was calling that. It doesn’t make sense to me.
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Even more so after it was pretty clear
That Daniels wasn’t going to have great accuracy on deep throws.
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by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 6, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Or even try
I don’t really remember too many deep passes, only 2 or 3 that I can recall. I’d rather take my chances on a deep ball then get beat over and over and over and over on the 7 yard out for a 1st down.
It seems like Diaco, Kelly and the defense have always been scared shitless
Of getting beat on the deep ball, or giving up big pass plays.
This definitely seemed like one of those games where you would want to force an erratic QB who is mistaken prone to try and beat you downfield with his arm.
Look at this way….it’s risky as hell for USF, and even if it works our defense isn’t as tired and we got the ball back quicker.
We get the ball back quicker!! Kelly is all about that!!
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 6, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I can’t think of any advantage the defense gets for putting the corner so far back outside of protection against the deep ball, which isn’t exactly Daniels’s strength.
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Most collegiate offenses lack the skill and discipline to put together long drives without screwing something up. If you can force a team to go 15 plays to score a TD, most teams are going to screw something up first and not get that TD. A lot of times in college, it’s better to just get out of the way than to try to make it happen yourself. That’s all USF did, really.
How many times was USF able to sustain a drive? Once, and that was heavily aided by Gary Gray penalties. They converted very few third downs. They threw for 130 yards on 30 attempts. I don’t understand what the problem is here. I’ll jump for joy if this can be repeated against Michigan.
Its simple...
It could have been 68 yards on 30 attempts!! We needed to shut them down completely in order to get the ball back with as much time as possible to try and score. I know we didn’t give up a ton of yardage, but the point is it could have been even less and given us the ball back even more.
Blanton was playing back almost level with Smith and Slaughter/Motta
I don’t remember Diaco ever having one corner back that far. It left one receiver essentially uncovered until he got more than 10 yards downfield. I’m surprised Holtz didn’t take advantage and just call bubble screens to Blanton’s side all day. He was getting about 10 yards every time.
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The D was in a soft zone all day and never changed. I would have expected a bit more single high safety, but hey, what do I know. Also, they played a ton of nickle…
Two points
1. Gray’s penalty was picture perfect interference, and
2. the subsequent USF scoring pass, the play went off exactly as it was drawn up, fake the QB run to suck in the defense and hit then open receiver
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by lookingdeadred on Sep 7, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Rees named starter vs. Michigan
I know many are applauding his play in the second half, but that second pick was an inexcusable throw IMO. Many are talking about Crist’s lack of accuracy, but how many drops were there in the first half during that 1-for-7 stretch? Off the top of my head, Riddick, Jones and Eifert all dropped passes that hit their hands. Riddick may have dropped two.
I said before, I don’t care who plays QB as long as they win, but don’t pile on DC for the first half. Too many receivers played way too tight…
Also, Jones left the game late with a leg/ankle injury (or so it appeared). Any word on this? If he misses time, would you rather Riddick moves outside and have Toma in the slot or Goodman start outside? Is it too early to throw Daniels in there and see what happens? Wait, I am having flashbacks of Shaq Evans in ’09—-make it stop, please!
Oh the pain!
Boy it really was painful, wasn’t it? I, however, like you, see the potential still for this team to be really good STILL. But a loss to UM this weekend would be disasterous.
Crist did not look good but not sure if I’m ready to write him off yet. Not so sure that Rees is the real answer in this offense. Might it be Hendrix or Golsen? How long will it take to get these guys ready?The QB running just has to be an option in the spread. Riddick, as you said, must play better. That was really disappointing. I do think the D is ready to go. WTF happened on special teams?!!

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