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Notre Dame vs. Pitt Preview: Time for a Winning Streak?

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Notre Dame (-6.5) at Pittsburgh

For the fourth straight season, Notre Dame will take on the Pitt Panthers with this year's game set for a noon kickoff this Saturday on ABC.

The Panthers are now coached by Todd Graham, the former Tulsa coach who came into Notre Dame Stadium last year and pulled out a victory over the Irish.

Gone is the pro-style power running game that defined the Dave Wannstedt era, and in comes the up-tempo spread offense that Graham brings with him from his days at Tulsa.

Pitt comes into this game with a 2-1 record after suffering a loss last week---is this an easier game for Notre Dame, or yet another tough rivalry matchup?

If you want a preview of the game, keep reading after the jump. Or you could go back to debating the 19,376 different conference alignment scenarios.

Your choice.

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How Has Pitt Been Doing This Year?

It's been a little bit of a struggle so far this year for Pitt as they make the transition to a spread offense and a 3-4 defense.

The Panthers opened up their season at home against Buffalo, and dealt with a Bulls team intent on draining the clock and running the ball to keep it away from Pitt. The Panthers led 7-3 at the half, and only 21-16 into the fourth quarter, but scored two late touchdowns to pull away for the victory.

In their second game, Pitt started out more efficiently against Maine, but led by only 5 late into the third quarter. Eventually the Panthers built a 20-point lead after two scores, but Maine would also add two more touchdowns of their own making it a much-too-close 6-point win for Pitt.

If the first two uninspiring wins against inferior opponents didn't do much for the Pitt fan base, last week's loss at Iowa certainly could bring about more skepticism. 

Up 24-3 late in the third quarter, Iowa came storming back and eventually defeated the Panthers 31-27, marking the largest comeback in Hawkeye history.

Notre Dame Defense vs. Pittsburgh Offense

Officially, Pitt has returned 5 starters on offense from last year, but it's really 6 when you factor in running back Ray Graham, who shared carries with Dion Lewis for the past couple seasons.

There's no doubt that the Pitt offense begins and revolves around Graham because he is an explosive back and the team's biggest weapon by a country mile.

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All eyes will be on Ray Graham this Saturday.

Up front, Pitt returns three offensive linemen and they are all pretty well regarded. The line might still be struggling with adjustments to the spread offense, but they are one of the more talented the Irish will face this year. They'll certainly be an upgrade over what Notre Dame saw last week with Michigan State.

With a premier running back and solid line, the Pittsburgh offense should be pretty explosive, yet they aren't quite there at this point for a couple reasons.

At quarterback, redshirt senior Tino Sunseri is back as the starter for the second straight season. He's got good size, but has always struggled with accuracy and consistency, and doesn't particularly fit the new Pitt offense that well. 

At wide receiver, the Panthers lost All-Big East standout Johnathan Baldwin and don't return any proven talents that will need to be double covered. However, redshirt junior Mike Shannahan is a good possession-type receiver and redshirt sophomore Devin Street is emerging playmaker with good speed.

Overall, this Pitt offense has some potential but they are likely being a little handcuffed right now learning a new system, not having a great fit at quarterback, and a lack of proven threats outside of Graham at running back.

The bad news for Notre Dame is that they are in fact playing a spread team again, but the good news is that Sunseri isn't very mobile (19 yards on 28 attempts) and it will basically like playing a pro-style team that's trying to fit a square peg in a round hole running Graham's uber-spread system.

Diaco might not be able to let the dogs loose like he did last week, but we should see plenty of pressure applied to Pitt's offensive line and quarterback all the same.

The key for the Irish defense will be to limit Graham on the ground and force the ball into Sunseri's hands in third and long situations. 

Graham is averaging just under 140 yards per game (3rd nationally in total rushing), but might be feeling the effects of not having Dion Lewis in the backfield anymore, as well as adjusting to a new offense. He dropped 322 yards and 6 touchdowns against two weak opponents to start the season, but rushed for just 97 yards on 22 carries without a touchdown* against his first BCS defense last week.

*Graham gained 24 of those yards with an amazing spin move at the line of scrimmage, leaving two Iowa defenders falling over themselves, so for the rest of the day he was averaging a pedestrain 3.4 yards per carry.

Head coach Todd Graham will try many different ways to get the ball in his namesake running back's hands, so Notre Dame is going to have to make sure they know where he is at all times, and not allow him to gain extra yards with poor tackling.

If the Irish can limit Graham to 100 yards or less, the game should go pretty favorably for Notre Dame.

Notre Dame Offense vs. Pittsburgh Defense

Pitt loses three outstanding players from last year's defense in DE Jabaal Sheard, DE Greg Romeus, and S Dom DeCicco, but 7 starters return nonetheless. It's actually 8 returning starters since Romeus missed most of last year with an injury.

Despite two defensive line losses, the Panthers return a very good three-man front this year with defensive end Brandon Lindsey, tackle Chas Alecxih, and tackle Miles Caragein. Lindsey notched 10 sacks last year and was on Phil Steele's first team Preseason All-Big East team, while Alecxih and Caragein were second and third teamers respectively.

At linebacker, Pitt has one of the best defenders the Irish will see at this position in redshirt senior Max Gruder. He's got great instincts and is always around the ball---leading the Panthers in tackles so far this year, as well as being 2nd in team tackles in 2010.

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Gruder will be all over the place against the Irish.

One problem for Pitt is that the switch to a 3-4 scheme takes away from their strength on the defensive line, and puts pressure on a linebacker corps that isn't as deep or talented.

Next to Gruder in the middle the Panthers have a quality linebacker in Tristan Roberts, but they are also currently starting a true freshman and a redshirt freshman at the outside positions.

The secondary has two returning starters and a decent amount of experience, but has been woeful so far in 2011. Through three games, Pitt has given up 6 touchdowns, over 1,000 yards through the air, and currently sits as the second to worst passing defense in the country with a ranking of 119th nationally.

This poses quite the dilemma for Notre Dame.

Judging by the statistics and general dispersal of talent, it would seem obvious that the Irish should throw the ball quite a lot on Saturday. For example, every Pitt opponent has thrown the rock at least 45 times in each game this season and had a lot of success doing so. 

However, Brian Kelly has already mentioned Pittsburgh runs some complicated defensive schemes and that he will keep it relatively simple for Tommy Rees at quarterback. The notoriously bad playing surface at Heinz Field also lends itself to running the ball more often and keeping things pretty conservative as well.

Ultimately, I foresee Notre Dame trying to run the ball early with moderate success but also airing it out over 30 times with Rees too. I don't think this Pittsburgh defense is on par with Michigan State's, and that should lead to a little bit more consistent run game and a much more productive day through the air than last weekend.

Prediction

Pittsburgh is an odd team right now, and I think a lot of that has to do with the coaching change this offseason and all of the different schemes the team is trying to get used to.

In terms of talent on paper and returning starters, there was every right to believe this would be one of the top two teams to beat in the Big East. Yet, so far West Virginia and South Florida look a step or two above the Panthers, with Pitt struggling somewhat against a MAC and FCS teams---as well as losing to what may be a very average Iowa Hawkeyes team.

Nevertheless, it's a rivalry game, on the road, on a bad playing surface (hey, we should be used to that!), with rain a distinct possibility. 

Is it possible that Pittsburgh has just struggled a little bit early this season with a new coach but could step up their game, shake off some rust, and make this a very competitive contest?

Is the talent disparity that wide in favor of Notre Dame?

Notre Dame is primed to have a turnover-free game and blow a team out and my initial gut reaction is that this could be that game.

How about some history?

Notre Dame Athletics

Four of the 10 biggest victory margins in  history have come against : 1944 (58-0), 1945 (56-0), 1965 (69-13) and 1996 (60-6)

Alas, this Irish team has too many problems, mainly with turnovers, to expect a blowout of the above proportions. Even though Dion Lewis, Jonathan Baldwin, Jabaal Sheard, Greg Romeus, and Dom DeCicco are all gone, this is still a good Pittsburgh football team.

Before the season began, many of us were hoping that Notre Dame would lean on the running game a little more and through three games this season it appears Brian Kelly is more than willing to do so.

However, it's also clear that Rees limits the playbook to varying degrees, the offense isn't operating at the fast-pace Kelly is accustomed to, and as a result this has had a trickle-down effect where the offense has become a little less explosive---or at least less likely to put up a ton of points.

In other words, Kelly is more than happy to lean on the running game a little more and let the defense do some damage on the other side of the ball. I think it's clear he's happy with that trade-off at this point.

My only concern is that this approach might not take full advantage of Notre Dame's offensive talent in relation to its opponents, especially if it's clear early that Pitt is struggling to contain Floyd, Jones, Riddick and Co through the air.

If Maine can throw for 334 yards with 3 touchdowns and no interceptions against Pittsburgh, what kind of damage should we expect from Notre Dame?

Sign me up for Kelly playing coy before the game a little bit and eventually letting Rees throw the ball a lot more as this game progresses.

On the other side of the ball, I don't think Pitt has the playmakers outside of Graham to have an effective afternoon moving the ball, and I'm not a big believer in Sunseri being able to do much damage if the Irish can bottle up the Pitt running game. 

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Can Sunseri limit his turnovers and keep the Pitt offense moving?

Sunseri does well when he's allowed to play within his limitations, complete a lot of short passes and sprinkle in an occasional longer pass, but he might not have the luxury of being in much of a comfort zone this Saturday. Sunseri should feel a lot of pressure from the Notre Dame front seven, with the added disadvantage of having to smash into those big bodies on occasional running plays.

Eventually I like Todd Graham's spread offense to do a lot of damage for the Panthers, but this Pitt team isn't ready right now and doesn't have the right pieces in place. With three quality linemen the Panthers line should be the anchor that keeps them in this game, but then again, even if the line has opened holes in the running game, they've still given up 12 sacks (2nd worst in the country to Akron's 15) through three games this season too.

Pittsburgh has the potential to be a dangerous team, but I just don't see that potential translating to the field this year---or at least this weekend against Notre Dame. As I've already said, it is going to take time for Pitt to get used to the new spread offense and there's no one on their offense who will scare you besides Ray Graham.

Further, I'd be pretty concerned about the defense if I was a Panther fan. Head coach Todd Graham brings with him his defensive coordinator Keith Patterson from Tulsa, and together they have a pretty horrid track record on defense and in particular on passing defense.

While at Tulsa, Graham and Patterson had the 108th, 98th, 102nd, and 120th ranked passing defenses---and this first year at Pitt is not bucking that trend in the least bit.

Also, without playing a truly strong team through three games this season, the Panthers are sitting at a pretty dismal 96th in total defense. 

These are not good numbers.

This is the kind of game that the Fighting Irish could potentially roll in if they bring their A game and play turnover-free, but we've yet to see that happen this year. 

So, I like this game to stay close for a while, but Notre Dame will eventually wear down the Panthers and get back to .500 on the season. We should see some backups in the fourth quarter for the first time this season.

Notre Dame 38

Pittsburgh 20

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Interesting match-up...

ND should be ready for the Pitt offense after basically shutting down Tulsa last year (I think the defense allowed 13 points, right?)

If I were Diaco, I would make the DE stay at home on the zone read and then punish Sunseri from the inside out all day long on the keeper. If they can keep contain, the Pitt offense will be very vanilla and it forces many 3rd in long situations (where you can unleash the BEAST).

I thought the zone read triple option shown by burger in his breakdown was a nice play—I wouldn’t be shocked to see ND run this against Pitt once. If they run this, I would put money on Hayseed coming over the top for either a pick or to lay out the receiver.

As far as the ND offense goes, I think you will see a lot of quick passes to the perimeter to Floyd and Riddick, so it will essentially boil down to the equivalent of running plays through the air. I think Pitt keeps a lot of help over the top and has the corners play off the receivers in zone coverage 80+%. Based on that, don’t expect a lot of mid to deep throws over the middle, but the drag/crossing routes underneath will be open all day long.

by Jim Miesle on Sep 22, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

13 points sounds right

ND gave a punt return for a TD, Rees threw a pick six, and they got 2 points on the blocked XP returned for a saftey.

It’s not same offense Graham ran at Tulse, though. It’s similar, but the coaches are different. Chad Morris, Graham’s OC at Tulsa, is currently at Clemson. Graham has Calvin McGee, RichRod’s old OC, and Todd Dodge, a spread specialist, on his staff, so they’re all very experienced. But the offense is similar enough that the Irish’s success against Tulsa should carry over fairly well.

by burger23 on Sep 22, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that backwards?

Wouldn’t we want the DEs crashing on Graham on the Read and let the OLB take care of the QB?

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by Cranked_Irish on Sep 22, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

I didn’t get much sleep the night before, and now it is two nights in a row, so the brain doesn’t work all that well…

by Jim Miesle on Sep 23, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess what I was really after was...

ND should punish Sunseri all day long. He doesn’t have the escapability of Denard and his arm shouldn’t scare anyone (accuracy issues). If he gets a healthy dose of the D-line early, he will be a bit gun-shy the rest of the game, and the zone d will make him pay for bad decisions. Maybe some caffiene is finally kicking in…

by Jim Miesle on Sep 23, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Lynch can run down Sunseri in the open field (not something he could have done Denard). For this reason, even if BK doesn’t think the true frosh has everything he needs down for a true contain, Lynch should be able to recover from any mistakes against someone like Sunseri and still make him miserable all day long — this is what I am hoping for.

by DenverIrish on Sep 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelly didn't play the freshman because he was afraid of one jumping out of his gap assignment and giving up a 70 yard TD run

We don’t really have that concern with Sunseri and Pitt’s line has given up a crap ton of sacks. I would expect to see a healthy amount of the Kraken tomorrow.

by burger23 on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

34-26 ND

I don’t know that the Pitt offense has 26 points in them, but until we see ND can limit its turnovers, I’ll have to give Pitt some benefit of the doubt.

I’ll be coaching my son’s baseball team at noon on Saturday, so hopefully I’ll be able to find some helpful folks tweeting lots of happy ND updates.

by Dave in the basement on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.

All of a sudden, I’m the optimistic one? Pitt is BAAAD. As in, barely beat MAINE bad.. Sunseri is not going to beat us with his arm, and the D line has shown they can take away the run. ND wins 45-17, only because the backups give up a TD late. This game should never be remotely close.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

True

But at this point you almost have to assume turnovers will cost us one touchdown and give them one touchdown. Plus, the ND-Pitt game always seems to be close.

But you’re absolutely right, ND is better top to bottom and should blow them out. I just don’t know if they will (coaches taking the foot off the pedal, turnovers, etc.).

After the first two weeks, we could use two big wins back to back, so here’s to hoping your prediction is right.

by burger23 on Sep 23, 2011 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

This game is over at the half with ND winning huge

The Irish defense should have a field day…not sure of the exact amount but I think Maine and Buffalo sacked Sunseri a combined 10 times and they definitly dont have the D-Line that the Irish have.

by Bill Rubin on Sep 23, 2011 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's an interesting fact:

Pitt had shut out all three of their opponents in the first quarter. Meanwhile, ND has scored touchdowns on their first drives against USF, Michigan, and Michigan State.

by burger23 on Sep 23, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Our offense has looked positively Weis-ian on the first drives

Just slashing their way through defenses with schematic advantages.

/builds17pointhalftimelead
//smugWeisinterviewonfield
///defensemakesadjustments
////NotreDameshutoutinsecondhalf

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 23, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so quick to give us the win...

While this matchup looks good on paper, we shouldn’t be overly confident especially since the weather might be terrible and the Irish have been prone to turnovers.

Spread offenses against our bigger guys could be in favor of Pitt, but I do believe the Irish have too much talent on both sides of the ball to be denied in this particular game…

It’ll be closer than some of you guys are predicting…

by jkra0512 on Sep 23, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I was at that 96 game.

All of the Allen Rossum returns for TD’s?
All of the Allen Rossum Returns for TD’s.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.
Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Sep 23, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I was there as well. It was a thing of beauty.

And very sad that it was Lou’s last season.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 23, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I got to go twice that year…also got to see the Ohio State game and watch Eddie George pillage the defense. That bastard.

Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.
Viva El Churro! El Churro lo ve todo!

by KrilDog on Sep 23, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ANYONE GOING??

I will be going with one of my buddies. This will be my first ND game! IM HYPED!! We will be sitting 50 yard line ND side, not sure what row (heard it might be 1st)!

by eyerish9299 on Sep 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

That sounds awesome

Tomorrow we continue our experiment of Notre Dame’s success when I’m at the game, vs. Notre Dame’s success when I’m not at the game. So far, it looks like I’m the walking embodiment of an indian burial ground.

by burger23 on Sep 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you make the MSU game?

Before last week, I had been to three Irish games – all losses. The USF game, Michigan last year, and Purdue at Ross Ade when I was a kid. Was nice to finally be there for a win.

by Shinons* on Sep 23, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not there and they won

Thus my status as a living, breathing bad luck charm.

by burger23 on Sep 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, no doubt

Stay the hell away from anything having to do with that place this weekend. No steel, no variety of the feline species.

by Shinons* on Sep 23, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

“While at Tulsa, Graham and Patterson had the 108th, 98th, 102nd, and 120th ranked passing defenses—-and this first year at Pitt is not bucking that trend in the least bit.”

This is a curious stat. I get that the team this year hasn’t learned a complicated defense yet, but if all those defensive looks wasn’t giving them a better pass defense at Tulsa, then what is the point? Do they get an insane amount of turnovers in return?

by DenverIrish on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually the Graham/Patterson defenses do get a lot of turnovers

I was reading Patterson’s bio on the Pitt website and that’s literally all they talk about it is the amount of turnovers his defenses cause.

Tulsa actually lead the country in interceptions last year with 24.

But that’s going to happen when team’s are constantly throwing the ball all game long on you.

Tulsa was ranked 6th for most pass attempts against at 507 in 2010.

They were dead last in the nation giving up 328 more yards than the 2nd to last team.

Also, 2nd to last in touchdowns given up.

Soooo, still an incredibly terrible trade-off.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know much about Graham's Pitt/Tulsa defense

Do they take a lot of risks? Are they high risk/high reward and that’s why they generate turnovers but give up a ton of yards?

by burger23 on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m trying to think back to the Tulsa game last year and I can’t think of anything unusual going on with their defenders.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 23, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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