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Notre Dame vs. Michigan State Recap: Irish Upset Sparty with Tough Defense

You mad, Kirk Cousins? (Photo by John Gress/Getty Images)

That win was a long time coming wasn't it? 

But it felt so good.

It was the biggest win against rival Michigan State since 1993.

Say what you want about Brian Kelly and this program, but he keeps pecking away at the bad streaks and adding to new ones that the team desperately needs.

Losing streak to USC?

Done.

Pathetic November records?

4-0 last year.

Incompetence against ranked teams?

Beat Utah last year and a top 15 team on Saturday.

Tip your cap to the men in blue and gold who could have laid down and gave up, but instead, came out and played a heck of a game (particularly the defense) when so many teams in the past would have wilted. 

Maybe this season won't turn out to be one for the ages, but don't sit there and tell me things aren't changing in South Bend---because they are.

Position grades after the jump.

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Offensive Line: B+

Let's be honest, the offense didn't do much of anything in the second half, and that was largely because Michigan State was stuffing the run, but not too much blame can be put on this offensive line. Michigan State has a very physical front seven and once Notre Dame went into a bit of a shell with the playcalling, even the best offensive lines will find it hard to open holes for running backs. 

Notre Dame got a workman-like 114 yards on the ground, which by all accounts, is a pretty good day against a Spartan team with a stout defensive line and quality linebackers. True, the bulk of those yards came in the first half, but it's more than the Irish ran for last year and it simply sufficed for the day.

Also, the line continues to be excellent in pass protection with the only sack given up on the early fumble by Rees. The line could have protected better, but Rees also should have released the ball quicker---he has to realize he can't stand in the pocket all day and expect not to get drilled.

Wide Receiver: B-

Pretty quiet day from these guys, particularly from Floyd who was in beast mode during the first two games. Fact of the matter is the Irish didn't move the ball too well through the air and it hurt the receivers' grade.

Floyd had a few big catches, and his numbers were still decent, but not anywhere near where he's accustomed to as the superstar playmaker of this offense. TJ Jones made a couple nice grabs and his touchdown reception was absolutely beautiful---he slowly continues to grow.

I'm not really sure where Theo Riddick is in this offense and it's puzzling.

As a pure receiver it seems like he's regressed, or he isn't getting open or Rees isn't finding him when he is open. He had such a rocky start to the season and I'm not sure where his head is at right now. And it's also a little puzzling that he's not getting the ball in his hands on any wildcat or jet sweeps---it's like he's not even on the field sometimes and he's too good of a player to say that about.

Tight End: C

Eifert ended the day with only two catches, but they were both huge receptions for the team. He dropped a ball that could have kept a drive alive, and he wasn't quite the threat this team needs him to be, but the passing game really struggled on Saturday so you can't blame the tight ends too much.

It will be interesting to see how much the struggles in the second half for the offense were due to a lack of blocking from this position. Does Eifert have what it takes to be an adequate blocker? How much will this team miss Ragone?

Running Back: B

The second half was downright abysmal for the running game, but Wood and Gray still churned out 126 yards between themselves with two scores, and a few long runs. Pre-2011 Notre Dame and we would have been pretty excited with their overall numbers, but with the way the second half played out we can only be somewhat happy.

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Wood's 2 rushing TD's was the first multi-TD game by an Irish back in over two years.

On the plus side, Notre Dame won't face too many teams with the strong defensive line and confusing defensive schemes like Michigan State. Clearly, it had an effect on the running backs in the second half. Even with the struggles, a couple touchdown runs by Cierre Wood were wonderful, and Jonas Gray is proving he can come in and be a factor without derping up the game every fourth carry----so we got that going for us.

Quarterback: C+

My initial grade was a little bit lower, and for the most part I thought this wasn't Rees finest hour. But now that I take a step back it didn't seem THAT bad. Two turnovers of course (Two Turnover Tommy---will that stick?) but he's right there at 70% completions and no stupid mistakes after a somewhat shaky start in this game.

Rees' touchdown pass to Jones was a perfect throw and the clutch second half play that put the Irish up by 18, effectively shoveling large amounts of dirt into Michigan State's grave.

If you're going to turn the ball over, you have to remain calm, stay accurate, and throw a dagger or two when the opportunity presents itself. Notre Dame still needs better play from the quarterback position, but Rees continues doing enough to lead this team and keep his job.  

It would have been nice if the passing game opened up a little bit and picked up the slack from a struggling running game in the second half, but the truth was Kelly simply wasn't asking Rees to do that and he was happy to play conservative and run some clock. You're not going to see 26 pass attempts in a somewhat close game from this offense very often.

Defensive Line: A+

Remember how we were saying before the game that the Irish matched up better against a more traditional, run-first offense, and that Notre Dame could use its strength up front and get more pressure on a pocket passer?

Clinic.

You couldn't have asked much more from the defensive line because they dominated, not just the offensive line, but the entire game. They were the biggest reason Notre Dame came away with this victory.

Last year, the Spartans ran for over 200 yards while setting up a perfectly balanced offense that did a lot of damage to Notre Dame. This year, Michigan State's running backs gained 53 yards on 17 carries---a measly 3.1 yards per rush.

As a team, Michigan State gained 29 yards rushing on 23 carries, and there were no runs over 8 yards.

Mark Dantonio was extremely hesitant to stop running the ball and get out of his team's balanced offense, but he was eventually forced to by the Notre Dame defensive line.

Not only was the run defense stout, but Cousins almost never had time to drop back and get a pass off without feeling pressure or with a gold helmet (or two) collapsing the pocket in a hurry. In short, we had high hopes for this defensive line and this was the type of game we dreamed about---they made a power running game with a history of running over the Irish, completely and absolutely one-dimensional.

Even better, the line was rotating in and out and utilizing the full two-deep and showcasing the young bucks on the line like Stephon Tuitt and Louis Nix.

Oh, and Aaron Lynch.

Oh my God, Aaron Lynch!!!

  

MSU triple teamed Tuitt, and paid the price.

Lynch saw minimal playing time against South Florida and even less against Michigan. So this was his first full game being in the regular rotation, and I guess it was pretty good for a true freshman:

5 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 forced fumble don't really capture his impact in this game. But do you know what does?

6 quarterback hurries.

Per the Twitter account of Blue & Gold Illustrated's Lou Somogyi:

The ND team leaders in "QB Hurries" for all of 2010 had 5 total — and freshman Aaron Lynch was credited with 6 vs. MSU alone. Amazing!

Lynch was damn near unstoppable to the point where he was either being held, in the quarterback's face, or forcing a hurried throw by Kirk Cousins every time he blew off the line in the second half. It was a breakout freshman moment for Lynch whose potential is so ridiculously high for someone so young.

Linebackers: B-

I was tempted to give a lower grade here, but the linebackers deserve a lot of credit for helping to shut down the Michigan State running game. However, this defense is set up to give the linebackers a lot of playmaking opportunities and they have been pretty quiet in both this game and throughout the first three games.

Te'o led the team with 12 tackles, but could probably play a little better. 

Fleming was really strong off the edge and played well, while a group of Calabrese, Fox, McDonald, and Williams all saw the field and played admirably. 

At times, the Spartans were having a field day completing passes underneath the Notre Dame zone coverage, and this is a big weakness for the Irish defense and the linebackers in particular. It also didn't help that Notre Dame was without both of its Dog linebackers in Prince Shembo and Danny Spond and was forced to play a true freshman (Troy Niklas) at one of the most demanding positions on the field. Niklas struggled at times, but that is to be expected for someone thrust into a starting spot like that so quickly.

Secondary: B+

There was some bad, but also a lot of great play to boost this unit's grade.

First the bad: Gary Gray had another sub-par game (thankfully better than last week though), Cousins completed 34 passes, gained 329 yards through the air, and B.J. Cunningham had a big day with 12 receptions and 158 yards. In sum, there is plenty to work on and improve at corner and safety.

Now the good: The secondary made some plays at key moments with players like Harrison Smith (4 pass break ups) stepping up and forcing some incompletions late in the game to seal the victory.

But really, it was the Robert Blanton show.

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Blanton put on a show against Michigan State.

Check out this stat line from Blanton:

6 tackles, 3 tackles for loss, 82-yard interception, 3 pass break ups, and one sack for a loss of 11 yards.

There isn't much else to say about Blanton's game, other than it was one of the most dominating performances by a corner in a very long time for Notre Dame. He was simply all over the field and came up with a big interception to effectively seal the victory.

It wasn't the best game from the secondary, but thanks to Blanton it was a good bounce back effort after the disastrous fourth quarter at the Big House.

Special Teams: B

Ruffer nailed his only field goal, Brindza continues to look great on kickoffs, and Turk had one of his most consistent performances of his career (41.5 average, 2 punts inside the 20---including one down to the 1-yard line). 

Best of all, George Atkinson took back the first kick return for a touchdown since the Hawaii Bowl at the end of the 2008 season. Atkinson's touchdown was a big momentum boost after Michigan State had just notched a field goal off an Irish turnover.

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In Dan Patrick voice: "Gone."

On the negative side, the kick return coverage was bad and Goodman had (what could have been) a crushing fumble on a late-game punt. At this point, should Notre Dame not even put back a return on punts and just focus all their energy trying to block the punt?

Final Thoughts

This was obviously a huge win for the program, and a much needed jolt of confidence that was needed for a team that has really played well through three games but hasn't seen it pay off in the win column until Saturday.

In a lot of ways, the game played out exactly how I thought it would: Notre Dame wreaks havoc on State's offensive line, makes the opponent one-dimensional, Cousins eventually turns the ball over in a key moment, and the Irish pull out a close, yet slightly comfortable multi-score victory.

There were three more turnovers, but at least that's an improvement over the 10 coughed up during the first two games. Better yet, the Irish had half as many penalties as Michigan State and 33 less penalty yards too.

I continue to believe in this team and am convinced that they are well coached and slowly becoming a very dangerous team on the college football scene. Up next are three very winnable games and an opportunity to get a ton of momentum before the bye week and a huge matchup against USC under the lights at Notre Dame Stadium.

A lot of people from each fan base couldn't believe that I thought Notre Dame would win this game by 17 points, and to their credit, there sure was a lot of history pointing to the game being much closer than what I predicted.

However, I just had a feeling that this would be a big win for the team because I've really liked the way they played this year and they were simply due. It seemed like poetic justice to lose the first two games against two good teams---only to beat the first ranked team faced on the season---while Michigan State faltered after playing two cupcakes and even admitting they had been practicing for Notre Dame for three weeks.

Some aren't satisfied with a "they're due" argument, but it seemed damn obvious to me. Notre Dame was due for a big win to turn this season around, and they were due for their first comfortable win over Michigan State in a long time too.

There's no doubting that the 0-2 start to the season sucked, yet if we're going to be so obsessed with history (as we were with Notre Dame struggling at home against MSU---by the way we've won two in a row now), then we should know that this season is far from over and that there is still plenty of great things that could happen to this team.

Let others cast Notre Dame aside because of the rocky start and make jokes about the Irish never living up to the hype. Brian Kelly is just going to continue building this program and beating ranked teams, bumps in the road be damned.

Other quick observations:

  • Before yesterday's game, the Irish picked up their first verbal commit for the 2013 class in OL Steve Elmer. The 6'6" 300 pound tackle from Midland, Michigan is one of the best linemen prospects in the midwest and should be a high four-star recruit.
  • Michael Floyd now owns every major receiving category in Notre Dame history. He is the first Irish player to ever catch 200 career balls.
  • Per Notre Dame's Media Relations Director Brian Harding: The Fighting Irish currently own the Megaphone (MSU), Jeweled Shillelagh (USC), Ireland Trophy (BC), and Shillelagh Trophy (Purdue) together for the first time since 1996.
  • I won't complain about going ultra-conservative in the second half on offense. That's what LSU does all the time and it usually works, especially when your defense is playing well and you're nursing a three score lead. But where's the creativity on offense? With Rees, the quarterback doesn't run---are sweeps, end arounds, and the wildcat formations completely removed from the playbook too?
  • I'm not really comfortable with the other safety spot opposite Harrison Smith. More specifically, it seems like Jamoris Slaughter is definitely outplaying Zeke Motta and I would probably think about keeping Slaughter at safety full time while using Jackson or Wood as the nickel man. Do you see Motta ever making a play, and isn't he constantly taking bad angles? It is just me?
  • I'm all for players expressing themselves with funky fresh apparel, but what is going on with Kyle Brindza's cleats?

Your moment of Zen:

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Nice writeup Eric

Was a fun game to be at, a nice start to what can be a good run for us. Kelly deserves a lot of credit – I was a skeptic with his hiring, but he’s answering my primary concerns with a solid running game and stout defense. Also after not doing much subbing on defense during the Michigan game, we rotated a lot more guys in this week – thought that was a nice adjustment.

Aaron Lynch is seven shades of nasty.

On the negative side, the kick return coverage was bad and Goodman had (what could have been) a crushing fumble on a late-game punt. At this point, should Notre Dame not even put back a return on punts and just focus all their energy trying to block the punt?
Also Atkinson fumbled on a return.

by Shinons* on Sep 18, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

This game made the last two even more heartbreaking as we saw that those were two games we probably should have won. Nevertheless, it was a fantastic win for the fans, the players, and most of all Kelly. It’ was nice to see the crowd at the Backer a bit more joyous this Saturday than the past two.

"This f---ing game is over!"
- Chuck Bednarik

by 60minuteman on Sep 18, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice Breakdown

Generally, I agree with you across the board. Here are a few additional thoughts:

1. You couldn’t ask for a better situation to get Tuitt, Lynch and Williams some quality reps. They were given one responsibility and constantly were pressuring MSU in the second half. Louis Nix is a force. I can’t wait to see where this group is later in the year, because if they can generate pressure without blitzing, then this defense will be really difficult to move the ball on.

2. Fleming played much better this week than the previous two, and also Steve Filer gave some quality reps for the first time since I can’t remember. I will give Hercules (aka Niklas) a pass on his game Saturday. He played okay at times, not so well at others, but I think he will grow by leaps and bounds as the season goes on.

3. Not to pick on the LBs any more than you did, but they probably do deserve a lower grade. Through three games, the one thing opposing offenses can do with regularity is run the shallow cross or drag routes and pick up yards in chunks. This has been an issue for a while now, and the LBs still haven’t fixed it. They often expand too much in the zone and allow for those receivers underneath to run free. This has to stop.

4. Amen on the punt coverage. I thought the same thing last year when Goodman was a fair catch machine. Why not just bring the house every time to try to block the punt? Most college punters end up shanking the punt if hurried/pressured. Hey—its worth a shot, right?

5. Turk looked a lot better on the rugby-style punt. I wonder if the coaches pick up on this and force him to use that technique a bit more often.

6. Blanton was lights out in this game. Nothing else needs to be said. What was really interesting on the pick was that he lined up on the same side as Gary Gray and they put Slaugther in man on the other side. I don’t know if that was designed or a mistake (since the defense was so confused pre-snap) but it worked.

7. Any word on what happened to Shembo? I don’t recall anything from the broadcast.

8. As for the vanilla play calling in the second half, I would have liked to see at least a shot or two downfield on play action. MSU was playing run hard and blitzing the gaps. I think there was enough man coverage (like on the TD to Jones) to exploit. Rees showed some mobility/escapability at times, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a little bootleg/roll-out/moving pocket incorporated. I didn’t like his decision to force a throw across his body however.

9. This game felt a whole lot closer than 18 points, right?

10. Still no depth in the secondary. I think you have to throw Wood and Jackson out there to get some reps. I agree with you on Motta, not sure where he fits best in the defense.

11. Many more thoughts, but I will leave you with this. Kirk Cousins probably moves himself up in the April draft by a few rounds based on his performance on Saturday. I think he was the sole reason why MSU was even around in the 4th quarer.

by Jim Miesle on Sep 18, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

And yes the game did feel much closer than 18 points

Although a lot of that is battered wife syndrome on our part, right?

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he loves me!

He doesn’t mean to hurt me! He just can’t help it! It’s my fault anyways!

"NOBODY IS CUTTING ANYONE OPEN. Especially not Sockface, I mean look at him. He's delightful"
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 19, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blanton's interception at the end was a bit of good fortune

He was confused as to where to lineup and only ended up where he did because they snapped the ball quickly. (presumably to take advantage of his confusion) Cunningham was left mostly alone on the other side of the field. That couldn’t have been by design. Blanton’s confusion made Cousins zero in on that side of the field and ignore the guy who had been his security blanket all day.

Nick Petrilli? I liked him better when he was NickBloomfield.

by stempke on Sep 19, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, exactly

My transcript on that play:
“Oh shit…oh shit…ohshitohshitohshitWOOHOOOOO!!!”

by Shinons* on Sep 19, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jim, I totally agree on that underneath zone.

That has been driving me crazy as well.

One other thing about the game Saturday that few have mentioned. With the exception of a couple of plays I thought the secondary did a really nice job. Despite the 60+ attempts Cousins was rarely able to try and stretch the field. We definitely had good pressure on him but the coverage was pretty solid overall as well.

by whiskey OFD on Sep 19, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to Spond?

Why did Niklas get pressed into play? Sorry if I missed it.

"If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now."
"Curioufer and curioufer"

by Cranked_Irish on Sep 19, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK thx.

"If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now."
"Curioufer and curioufer"

by Cranked_Irish on Sep 19, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

piggy-backing on the LB's: Dan Fox is awful in coverage.

Shembo was missed.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Sep 19, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric, I totally agree with this comment.
Let others cast Notre Dame aside because of the rocky start and make jokes about the Irish never living up to the hype. Brian Kelly is just going to continue building this program and beating ranked teams, bumps in the road be damned.

I can’t believe that people have even come close to wanting to dump Kelly. You get the feeling all they saw was the scores against South Florida and Michigan, and didn’t watch the games. There’s a lot to feel good about with these guys.

For the first time in a long time, I see some real playmakers on both sides of the ball. In ‘05 and ’06, the only thing we had on D was Zibikowski. Now, we’ve got Teo (a tackling machine), Blanton, and we’ve got a defensive line like we’ve not had since the Holtz era. And running Tuitt, Lynch and Williams through the two-deep rotation is giving those guys valuable experience, not to mention spelling the starters.

Yes, there are deep flaws. There are always going to be flaws on a team that has had a 24-28 record over the last 5 years. But this team has a ton of upside, and we still don’t know how good they can be.

Go Irish!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 19, 2011 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Just a few other thoughts

Dantonio was criticized for his conservative play-calling on The Only Colors. He took responsibility for the fake FG. But I think the dink and dunks that affected LB play rating were a result of ND’s pass rush and their offensive line troubles. Cousins just did not have time for deep throws. And ND was stuffing the run (14 yds in 13 atts in the first half). They were effective to an extent from between the 20s.

BTW, their Yds/Pass (6.1) was almost the same as ours (6.2).

How about a shout out to walk-on Senior, Chris Salvi, who took out two Spartans on GAIII’s KO TD?

We had two Red Zone attempts and converted both (1 TD, 1 FG). All other scores (21 pts) were from outside the Red Zone.

I was okay with the play-calling with the lead, overall, though continuing to develop multiple weapons will open up the field and make this offense very difficult to stop. I, too, would like to see either more sustained drives or more points from quick strikes.

Tino Sunseri, Pitt, is a less mobile QB than Cousins, has 19 yds in 28 atts. He has a lower (by about 25 pts) passer rating than Cousins, and lower completion age by about 8 than Cousins. He has thrown 3 TDs and 4 Ints.

Have to agree we still need to improve on Turnovers and Penalties.

by Michael Collins on Sep 19, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts:

1. We had 3 turnovers, quite a few derps, and won by 18. Only The Colors can blame it on playcalling and claim there isn’t a talent differential all they want, but they couldn’t move the ball on the ground, became one dimensional, and lost. That wasn’t because Dantonio decided he wanted to make Cousins run the Air-Raid for a game. They couldn’t run the ball to save their lives. That was forced by our D.

2. This was a wake up game for us. While I’m still nervous, this could be the tipping point where the lightbulb finally goes on. I look for us to annihilate Pitt next week, and if we do, we’ll dominate Purdue and hopefully Air Force (who still scares me) before USC.

3. The offensive line is the unsung hero in all this. They’ve played amazingly.

4. Run game: I disagree somewhat with Murtaugh. The problem in the second half was with the playcalling, not the execution of the runs. We were up 2+ scores. They knew we wanted to run out the clock. We’re not a power run team, not yet. We were gashing them big in the first half with some nifty draws and traps, but we don’t really have line em up and push em back runs in the arsenal yet. Everyone in the stadium knew we’d call a run, and so MSU would load up and stop us. We needed to call a play action or two to keep them loose, and then the run would be open. I’d have liked to see more, but we’re not a team (yet) that can run when everyone knows we’re going to run.

5. Not much more to say about D-line. Lynch is going to be fun to watch the next few years. And Nix is everything we hoped he’d be. He’s simply eating the entire middle of the line, and not one line yet has been able to get a push on him.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 19, 2011 3:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, haven't seen anything from Pitt

so don’t know how they’re doing with the new offense, but Sunseri isn’t Cousins. I hope our 6-man D-line rotation becomes a thing, because with Tuitt and Lynch rotating in significantly with Nix, KLM, Ethan, and Cwynar, they’re going to stay fresh and just DESTROY people in the 2nd half.

"NOBODY IS CUTTING ANYONE OPEN. Especially not Sockface, I mean look at him. He's delightful"
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 19, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pitt's trying to fix a square peg in a round hole right now

To a degree much worse than ND was early last year—-we actually had a pretty good lineup offensively to run the spread, QB aside.

Sunseri is a poor man’s Crist as far as I’m concerned. Bottle up RB Graham and the game shouldn’t be that close.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 19, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I caught a little of the Pitt/Iowa game...

and Pitt should have won that game. They had the clear momentum going into halftime and just came out flat in the second half. I’ll tell you what they, their one LB (can’t remember his name, sorry!) is VERY good. But, that’s all I remember sticking out to me. Their D lineis forgettable and their secodary has some obvious holes.

As for their offense. Like Murtaugh pointed out, Sunseri is a poor man’s Crist and can pressured into some grave mistakes, and from Lynch and Co. showed against MSU, Pitt might have some trouble moving the ball with any consistency.

Overall, Pitt isn’t the team they were the past few years and ND should be able to run their offense to maximum efficiency, while the defense should run roughshod through that offensive line. However, we’ve seen this song and dance before…

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep that sounds very familiar...

he was all over the field when I was watching. Very good sideline-to-sideline LB

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

Where in the hell does Pitt get guys like Graham, Dion Lewis, an LeSean McCoy? And we can’t get one RB commitment (YET) in this class? Pitt finds these little power running backs that can straight up ball. Where do they find them, and why don’t we get us one?

Mouth Of The South

by Mouth of the South on Sep 19, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the OL's run blocking is a concern

good OL’s can get a 1st down when the defense knows you are going to run out the clock, the OL has not shown that ability yet. The good runs are because the defensive front is expecting a pass not because of the OL dominating the DL.

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~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Sep 19, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the defense is bringing eight guys against five or six blockers, you're always going to have trouble running the ball

That’s one thing Rees didn’t do very well – checking out of run plays when MSU was stacking the box.

by burger23 on Sep 19, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

burger is that the lack of experience or knowledge, you think?

Or are they one in the same? I’m going to go ahead and blame that on experience and trusting his line too much to move a pile of bodies in which they are outnumbered…

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Rees audibles to passing plays very often

At least that’s what I’ve been seeing. He might have done it some against Michigan, but it seemed to me that he was changing plays to runs, or runs to the other side where the pressure was coming from against MSU.

I’m sure Kelly told him we’re running the ball a lot so…

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 19, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

does that have to do with him trusting himself?

Or, like you said, Kelly told him that they were running the ball more often?

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they go hand-in-hand

Rees was making his sixth career start and eighth game of significant action. I think it’s something that’s easily correctable and hopefully Kelly and the staff can fix it. It shouldn’t be too hard to teach a kid like Rees to count the bodies in the box and then check into a quick screen or slant or something.

by burger23 on Sep 19, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that assessment...

Rees has made it this far and succeeded. I think now that he’s the clear-cut starter and doing well in the role, he’s ready to take more control (and blame) from what he sees out there.

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

4. I put blame on the playcalling too

But MSU still made nice adjustments.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 19, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you saw Mike Ragone's injury rear its head in the second hafl

Notre Dame ran a lot of three and four wide sets against MSU and only went to two TE a handful of times. We still ran the ball well out of the spread sets in the first half, but in the second we had trouble just pounding it down MSU’s throat.

Koyack played when we did go 2 tight and his blocking looked ok, but I think Kelly and company need to get him up to full speed asap.

Though 112 yards in the first half beg to differ, I think we struggled to run the ball effectively. I hope Koyack can continue to improve so we can keep the power run game going.

by burger23 on Sep 19, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a great point as well.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 19, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome, great win, made my day and the weekend.

No one is going to be able to run on this defense.

Cut down the miscues and this offense can put up 40 a game

Freshman played fantastic, especially that Beast called Lynch. You mentioned Lynch’s 6 QB hurries…on Bryan Driskell’s breakdown at ISD he mentioned that last year 3 players led the team with 5 QB hurries…..for 13 games! Lynch is amazing.

by Bill Rubin on Sep 19, 2011 6:40 AM EDT reply actions  

That QB hurry stat is above in the article

In the quote box with huge letters!

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 19, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theo

The longer the Riddick experiment at WR goes, the more I wish he were still a RB. It’s probably too late to change now but, I would prefer Toma in the slot, Riddick at RB and Atkinson learning a WR position. With Kelly emphasising the run game more than expexcted another experienced RB would be a plus. I am very suprised we haven’t seen some wildcat with Riddick….are we saving it for later?
Aaron Lynch has to be in on passing downs. He should have been vs UM. We gave a lousy passer in shoelace time to be effective.

by tlndma on Sep 19, 2011 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it has to be right now, Eric...

with the amount of turnovers given up each game so far, the offense (mainly Rees) needs to feel more comfortable with a smaller set of plays.

Saying that, after this week, they need to add a new wrinkle and Riddick seems like a good candidate to take that…

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brindza's Cleats

Adidas doesn’t make shoes for football kickers, so Brindza uses soccer cleats. Since they don’t come in black, he has to (gets to?) use the neon ones.

by rjorellana on Sep 19, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

blocking the gunners

I apologize if I am restating something someone said above, I just skimmed the comments quickly this morning. Riddick and Goodman certainly need their share of the blame for dropping punts, particularly after giving the fair catch signal, but our blocking of the gunners has been atrocious… and if I knew a word that would take my disgust to another level, I would have used it. This is another reason that we should just go all in on punt block. How could anyone expect our returners to do anything except give the fair catch signal every time when all evidence suggests that they will get slaughtered by the other teams gunners (probably running at full speed) as soon as they receive the ball? Correct me if I am wrong, but the punt that Goodman should have returned against Michigan (not MSU), where he had 20 yards of green ahead of him, was a result of the gunner falling down, not impeccable blocking, per se. Our special teams coach needs to take some responsibility for this. It looks like our blockers out wide have know idea what they are doing.

by leend11 on Sep 19, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

also

just correcting my own grammar… “have no idea what they are doing” NOT “have know idea what they are doing”.

by leend11 on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree 100%

Goodman and Riddick have muffed punts or made bad decisions even without guys in their faces, but our punt returners have typically had someone right in their face before the ball gets there. We don’t seem to be blocking the gunners para nada. It also doesn’t help when Goodman runs laterally and backwards instead of getting up field. Give Bennett Jackson a shot or something.

Mouth Of The South

by Mouth of the South on Sep 19, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

For the muffed punt, was it as obvious of a missed delay of game penalty on the broadcast as it was at the stadium? I suspected he muffed it out of surprise that the play was actually happening after the play clock clearly being on 0.

by Shinons* on Sep 19, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I've seen a few people complain about this

But I didn’t notice it on TV.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Sep 19, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was blatant at the stadium,

at least 3 to 4 seconds on zero, and the crowd surely noticed and went nuts. But the refs were terrible to both teams in the game. Pretty standard Big Ten refs.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Sep 19, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't notice that, but

Goodman still shouldn’t muff the punt. From snap to the time the punt reached Goodman was probably close to 10 seconds. That should give him enough time to get under it. For some reason he was still running towards it when he tried to field it. He wasn’t waiting under it, in other words. He was already out of position, so I don’t know why he even tried to field it at that point.

Mouth Of The South

by Mouth of the South on Sep 19, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats to the Irish, and Kudos to One Foot Down

Since you all were classy enough not to come over and say “I told you so” (Which in my opinion you were completely entitled to do) I figured I would come over and congratulate you.

The game played out largely how your writers predicted it would, so Kudos for that. See ya next year in East Lansing.

by trivialstuff16 on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Even bigger of you to come over here and congratulate us and our team...

many thanks to you! That’s what a rivalry is all about, trash talking and rooting for your team. See you next year in what will be another great game! Good luck with the rest of the season and make sure you take care of Michigan for us…

by jkra0512 on Sep 19, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We hate State

but it’s kind of like a brotherly hate. We’re bound by our mutual hatred of UM. Thanks for being the bigger man and stopping by. Good luck and beat Michigan, you hosers.

Mouth Of The South

by Mouth of the South on Sep 19, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are a class act, trivialstuff16.

And I agree with all the other posters on here who say “Beat Michigan!”

I know that, back in the old days, when Michigan was trying to blackball ND, Michigan State (and Purdue) refused to buckle under the pressure and continued playing us. For that, we’ll always be appreciative. So thanks for that and for the good wishes.

As for “Little Giant”, not so much. ;-)

Take care, and have a great rest of the season.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea Blanton and Lynch were brilliant

And it was great to see some positive play in the special teams!

by Chris Schumerth on Sep 19, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

One part of ND

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Sep 19, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

This was supposed to read: One part of ND's play calling that I can't understand

is the lack of the use of play-action to throw downfield to Eifert.

Also, can Atkinson III handle punt returns? I know he fumbled a late KO return, but he has to give the team a better chance of breaking a big play than Goodman. Also, what happened to Bennett Jackson? He showed some promise on kickoff returns last year.

I am starting to feel that Rees is simply a game manager and is keeping the seat warm for either Golson or Hendrix. I turned to my Dad during the game and said I honestly can’t see Rees starting this very game in two seasons. This offense needs more mobility out of their QB, more explosiveness. Golson and Hendrix aren’t there yet, and may not be next year either, therefore I see Kelly sticking with the steady Rees. As long as he keeps the turnovers to a minimum, ND will have a chance.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Sep 19, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good write up

Congrats from an MSU fan.
Weird game for me. I mean, I thought the game was pretty competitive, yet my team still lost by 18 points so… that’s different. I’ll have a review on The Only Colors later, so if you want to enjoy some schadenfreude and compliments of your team’s performance, feel free to stop over.
But anyways, I came over here to say, big ups to ND, you were clearly the better team in all three facets of the game. And good luck the rest of your season. I’ll feel a lot less salty about losing this game, if you guys end up 9-3 or so.

by HeckDorland on Sep 19, 2011 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

HeckDorland, thanks for stopping by.

See my comment above to your comrade’s post, trivialstuff16.

And both of us benefit from our respective teams’ success from this point forward.

Beat Michigan!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 19, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much appreciated

Trust me it felt a lot closer than 18 points to me too. Best of luck on the rest of your season. Hopefully we can end up somewhere around that 9-3 mark for you.

by whiskey OFD on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Coach Here

Just testing out this new login. Looking forward to getting back to discussing football with you guys.

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