The Maple Street Press Irish Kickoff Series: Part Three (Coaching)
Our interview with Pat Mistch, editor of Maple Street Press Irish Kickoff 2011 and former writer for The Blue-Gray Sky, continues with part three as we take a look at the coaching at Notre Dame.
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Now to the questions....
OFD: History has shown that any human being is going to have a very difficult time coaching at Notre Dame for more than 10 years. What would you put the odds at of Brian Kelly (who will turn 50 during the upcoming season) coaching past 2020?
Mitsch: While I'd love to tailgate out of the back of my flying car before a Kelly-led 2021 Irish game, the odds are against Kelly being the head coach then. Of the 18 head coaches since Jesse Harper (including interims McKeever and Devore, and resume casualty O'Leary), only 4 lasted a decade. So history is saying Kelly has roughly a 1 in 5 chance of lasting double digit seasons.
But in reality I'd say his chances are even lower than that. There is far more competition and parity these days and less fan patience to sit and wait a few extra seasons for a coach to build his team (back) up to championship caliber status. Even Lou, who has a statue of himself outside the Stadium, wasn't immune to fan complaints that the game was passing him by and that it was time to move on. ND fans are a fickle lot and get spoiled pretty quickly.
Even if Kelly wins it all in the next 2-4 years, he'd have to put up a few more championship runs (and maybe even another win) to ensure fan support. As Bob Davie once lamented, Rockne did set the bar very high.
OFD: Do you expect to see a more calm, cool, and collected Brian Kelly on the sidelines in 2011?
Mitsch: If we're winning and not making mistakes? Sure. Otherwise, I suspect more than a few players will be on the end of a tongue-lashing after a costly mental error. Funny you should ask this because I asked nearly the exact same question in the Irish Kickoff 2011 to a roundtable of writers.
Allow me to cheat here and crib an excellent point from Jay, a guy some of you might remember from our BGS days together. "A coach like Kelly, 20 years in the game, doesn't change his stripes in the heat of battle." In other words, if a veteran player makes a dumb, unforced mistake that costs the team, he's likely to hear it, loudly, from Kelly that such mistakes are unacceptable.
OFD: If Kelly is ever able to recruit enough elite running backs, do you ever foresee Notre Dame running the ball more than they throw it at some point down the road, or is it just lunacy to expect something like that?
Mitsch: If ND can land an Adrian Peterson caliber recruit I think it's pretty likely that he will start to lean more on the run than the pass. That's sort of a no-brainer for just about any college coach. But ND did have 4 running backs on the roster last year who were Top 100 recruits and still threw the ball more than they ran so I think as long as ND features the spread we won't see an overwheming focus on the ground game.
On the other hand, Kelly was head coach at GVSU for 10 years before switching to the spread. Who's to say he wouldn't try and change to another offensive system if he's at ND for a long time (although hopefully it would turn out better than Lou's attempt at the "Blarney Offense")
OFD: Is Director of Football Strength & Conditioning Paul Longo a secret weapon for Notre Dame, or is he merely bringing the program back to the best it can be and where other elite teams have already been for a number of years?
Mitsch: Kelly sure seems to be happy with the results of Longo's work as he keeps bringing him along from CMU to UC to ND. "Secret weapon" might be a bit much, but having a strength coach you can trust and rely on is pretty key as they get to spend a lot more time with the players than the head coach or any assistants.
Of course, the reputation of the strength coach is usually tied to the success of the head coach. From our outsider vantage point as fans, it can be difficult to determine where the impact of the strength coach stops and where the impact of the head coach starts.
OFD: There seems to be a fairly large divide between how people view the abilities of this coaching staff as some really like them and others are clearly not that impressed. What is your take on the staff from top to bottom?
Mitsch: After the instances of discord between assistants under Charlie, it's refreshing to have a staff that give all appearances of being on the same page and understand their role in the bigger picture. There were understandly some concerns when Kelly brought a large number of his UC staff to ND rather than hiring bigger names, but having a staff that is familiar with your methods and have good chemistry together is a pretty key attritbute when trying to rapidly rebuild a program.
The confidence the staff had in Kelly during last season's awful October no doubt filtered down to the players and contributed to the excellent November. As for my take on the individual coaches themselves, we'll all start to get a better idea in Year Two. I think it's pretty tough to get that good a look in the first year when everything is brand new. Now that the players know what to expect, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few units really start to shine under their position coach's leadership.
OFD: No coach experienced quite the lows and highs last season like Bob Diaco, and for good reason. At 38 years old, coming into his third year as a defensive coordinator and 13th year as a coach, is Diaco a rising star in the college ranks or still a fairly unproven commodity?
Mitsch: It's tough to call anyone a rising star who oversaw the defensive collapse against Navy last season. Granted, the turnaround at the end of the season was fantastic, as was his relentless recruiting leading up to National Signing Day.
Still, I think he's still a work in progress. He has plenty of potential and the players seem to really like him, but he has to prove that games like the Navy game were the fluke outlier. He'll also probably have to get a bit more polished in front of the media before he starts to get mentioned for more DC and head coaching opportunities. I do think he'll get there, but it might take a few more years.
OFD: Earlier in the offseason there were concerns that some of the assistants would be moving on to other opportunities. That hasn't happened yet, but do you see any coaches leaving anytime soon and if so, who do think are the first one or two to leave?
The safe bet for the first few assistants to leave are the ones already being mentioned for jobs. Coach Martin is a likely candidate to be offered multiple head coaching jobs very soon. Coach Warriner is another guy I expect to be offered more OC jobs (and I suspect his new run game coordinator job title is a way to give him a higher salary and get him to stick around a bit longer).
If Coach Alford continues to be the excellent recruiter he has been the past few years, teams will certainly come after him too. And as I mentioned earlier, Coach Diaco needs some more seasoning and to show continued defensive improvement, but he's also a candidate in the next few years to move on.
OFD: What is one major positive sign you saw from Brian Kelly (and the whole coaching staff) in 2010 that leaves you very upbeat about the future? What is one major negative that has you concerned?
Mitsch: The obvious positive is the way Kelly and his staff held the team together after multiple losses and tragedies hit the team mid-season. His ability to weather the storm and keep the team focused is Example A why ND always needs to hire a coach with plenty of head coaching experience.
The major negative I suppose is the curious playcalling at times that seemed to be aggressive for the sake of being aggressive. I think that's just who Kelly is as a playcaller, but there needs to be a balance between being not afraid to make a risky call and dialing up a flea flicker for Tommy Rees's first collegiate pass.
OFD: Brian Kelly is already 40 percentage points higher than the average winning percentages of Davie, Willingham, and Weis. With a 10-3 record in 2011, Kelly would finish year two in South Bend with just under a .700 winning percentage for his career at Notre Dame. Will Kelly ultimately win 70% of his games at Notre Dame? Is that something we should expect or demand?
Mitsch: I don't know if Kelly will ultimately win 70% of his games at ND, but I do strongly believe it is something that ND fans should both expect and demand from the ND head coach. After all, the goal is to win national championships and every coach who has done that at ND easily cleared the 70% win hurdle.
With the 12 game regular season, hitting 70% only requires a coach to alternate 8 and 9 wins and I don't think any ND fan would be happy if ND rarely if ever hit double digit wins. I certainly hope that Kelly wins more than 70% of his games at ND, because if he doesn't, he's going to be shown the door just like the three coaches before him.
Coming up in Part Four: Recruiting
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All Quiet on the Western Front
Eric, I know that a lot of activity will commence next week as Fall practice begins. Are things always this quiet between the end of Spring and the beginning of Fall? Except for a few scheduled appearances by Kelly, and a few things concerning Floyd, there hasn’t been a peep out of South Bend concerning the upcoming season. I realize any news at this time is probably bad news! Is this usual? Any thoughts?
I don't think it's been that quiet really
There hasn’t been much info regarding the players during summer workouts, but I think there’s been plenty of ND football related news out there.
But it will be amped up here starting next Saturday.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
ND Fans
All ND fans should be very excited as, the answers to so many of these questions will be much clearer by national signing day next February. My opinion is that most of the answers will be positives in the eyes(Irish) of ND fans.
I like your outlook.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Strength & Conditioning
In April under one of your earlier articles “Notes on Brian Kelly’s Spring Press Conference” you had listed the weight gains/losses(Nix) of the players as of the beginning of spring practice (Apr 2011) Vs I think the beginning of fall practice (Aug 2010). Both KLM and Ethan had shown 13 and 15 Lbs gain. Schwenke 20 lbs. Any thoughts as to how this may play out in 2011? How much is the training table, Longo, etc having a positive effect? Also, is their any truth to the rumor that they are considering reconfiguring the (Play LIke a Champion) stairwell to allow passage for Tate Nichols?
I think they are purposely trying to bulk up the veterans
Like KLM, Johnson, Nix, Schwenke, etc. and have these guys be the team’s go-to players that eat up blocks and allow Te’o and the rest to do their thing.
Behind them, I think they are looking for the younger players, Lynch, Tuitt, Ishaq, Councell, Troy Niklas, etc. to be the speed guys.
That’s been my interpretation thus far.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no need for that,
as Tate Nichols will reconfigure the stairwell himself the first time he walks through without ducking.
Mouth Of The South
by Mouth of the South on Aug 1, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense
to try to bulk up EJ, KLM and Schwenke. They’re not speed guys to begin with, and you want your 3-4 DE’s to eat up blocks and take up space, moreso than to penetrate too far upfield. Remember, we’re running a “no crease” 3-4.
Mouth Of The South
by Mouth of the South on Aug 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Martin will be the first coach to leave
In fact, I might even put money on him being snatched up by someone next offseason.
I love coach Martin and the work he’s done as the DBs coach and recruiting coordinator. I think one of the biggest questions about Kelly’s staff was how Martin would be able to handle nationwide recruiting after coming from D-II, but I think we can all agree he has done a standup job. But with his track record as a HC and his success at ND, he’ll probably get some looks for HC jobs next season, probably from a lower-tier program, like a MAC or Sun Belt school.
I hate to see any assistants leave because turnover is never a good thing, but it at least speaks well to Kelly’s ability to hire good people.
One Foot Down
On teh Twitterz
I think Martin is too valuable to leave
So I think Kelly does whatever he can to make sure he doesn’t leave after two years.
I’m putting my money on Molnar being the first to go. And he’ll leave for a real OC job somewhere or become a head coach at a really small school.
I think he’s the most expendable and someone old enough and with enough experience that some place like New Mexico State is going to take a shot at him.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, Martin is extremely valuable
But if someone offers him a head coaching job, do you really see him sticking around? He was a HC for a long time at GVSU.
I think Warriner will be gone soon too. He was OC for Kansas during their glory days a few years ago (even though Mangino was probably running the show) and a highly regarded OL coach. I think he’ll be fielding some calls come December.
One Foot Down
On teh Twitterz
Martin and Warriner are clearly are top two guys that programs will want to poach
But yes, I think Martin will stick around because I think he’s someone that Kelly needs right now, being a great coach and especially recruiting coordinator. I don’t think he’s going to be getting anything other than a C-offer from a school, and probably not a BCS school, so I think he will stay for another 2 to 3 years.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What an asset
Martin must be. We have a national-championship-winning head coach working on our secondary and coordinating our recruiting. That has to be a big help to the defense, since Bobby D coaches from the booth.
Mouth Of The South
by Mouth of the South on Aug 1, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I do wish Diaco coached on the field though.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Aug 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Just from an entertainment standpoint
Not because it would help the team out or anything.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Aug 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Coaching Defections
Unless their is conflict between Kelly and any of the assistants, I think the staff holds together. A NC appears to be a real possibility in the near future. A NC on a resume even as an assistant is Golden!!!!!! Therefore, I hope we have multiple defections after 2011!!!!
I like the way you think, sir
I could deal with defections if it includes a national championship.
One Foot Down
On teh Twitterz
I honestly think that this is true
Or at least the assistants smell something really positive about to break out in South Bend.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelly's tenure
The numbers do bear out that it is unlikely BK would be around for more than 10 years but I would argue as long as he is making it to BCS games regularly (starting no later than next year), the majority of fans wouldn be pleased. Since the BCS era, I think most knowledgable fans understand how hard it is to compete for a NC year in, year out. its not like when Holtz was coach and there were truly just a few super powers, the playing field is much more level with talent. As long he continues to recruit, win double digits, and doesn’t burn out like Urban, I can see him being around a while.
I agree
Although it’s tough to tell how patient we will be with a BCS bowl or two within the next four or five years. How restless will we get?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough
“He has plenty of potential and the players seem to really like him, but he has to prove that games like the Navy game were the fluke outlier.”
Alright, I am sick and tired of seeing Diaco get buried for this one game. Nobody hated that Navy game more than I did. I sat throught it just like the rest of you, and it was miserable. Nobody’s questioning that. But it’s ridiculous to wonder if that was a fluke outlier or not. Do you know how I know it was an outlier? Because it was the only game last season like it! Does this guy even know what outlier means? Does he have other examples of games like Navy? No, because there weren’t any.
Do you realize USC and their band of 5-star recruits didn’t score a single point that wasn’t off a turnover? Or that Tulsa scored the bulk of their points off of a 2-point return (talk about fluke outlier), interception return and punt return? Or that Jacory Harris completed almost as many passes to Notre Dame as he did to his own team? Don’t give me this “is Navy the fluke outlier” when it clearly is. The Michigan and Michigan St. games weren’t great, but after that things were pretty good defensively. Even the Stanford game was more about offensive ineptitude than it was the defense.
Navy was an awful game for Diaco. But USC was equally amazing (4 turnovers by magical winner Tommy Rees and only 16 points allowed is incredible), so give the guy a freaking break please. It was miserable…I get it. Now get over it.
You know
I kind of find myself thinking the same thing….Navy was the outlier.
But the Michigan game was pretty bad too…although take away Robinson’s 90+ yard run and it would have been a very solid effort all things considered.
We really played Stanford tough defensively, about as tough as anyone did last year. We kept them to their least amount of yards on the season (I don’t count their UCLA game because they were killing them and stepped off the gas in the 3rd Q) and Luck probably had his worst game against us.
Sky rockets in flight.
I've been happy with Diaco's job so far
And I think you and frank_grimes are right. The total body of work for Diaco was prettty impressive considering how bad it was in 2009 under TAHNOOTAH. I was very happy Kelly brought him over from Cincy after the 2009 (I think?) UC team had to replace 10 starters on defense and they still fielded a better defense than ND that season (yeah yeah Big East blah blah blah). Any guy that could do that seemed like a pretty coach to me.
One Foot Down
On teh Twitterz
Daico and Media
I thought Diaco was just fine with the Media , except for his answers after Navy. I enjoyed his enthusiasm. I believe the reason for Kelly pulling access to his Assts. was in part their being overwhelmed by the amount of media attention at ND. I think he felt with the way the season was going, he didn’t want to have to “put out any more fires”. He also may have believed it was hurting their job performance, if only by being a distraction. We’ll see if he loosens up this season.
I love me some Diaco talking to the media
But I think you’re right about why Kelly shut them down last year. Makes sense.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
"Turnover" is usually healthy
Notre Dame is an educational institution. We prepare people for what’s next. There’s a typical rhythm that MOST follow. But when a given individual departs from that standard, it’s almost always indicative of “good.”
Bill Gates didn’t drop out of college to get stoned and listen to Pink Floyd. He did it because he had bigger things to do.
When Golden and Jimmy bailed without playing their senior seasons, many decried them as disloyal. They played on Saturdays so that one day they could play on Sunday. The Sunday folks wanted them. They were ready. ND did all it could for them, and they took full advantage.
You don’t want a lot of turnover at the top, but to say that the best HC stays forever means that Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden are the best the game has ever seen. Not true.
Any healthy program sees the occasional OC and DC move on once in a while. It’s OK. And further down the org chart? Even more. Healthy organizations experience it.
Having said all that, I’d love to see a whole slew of folks from Manti to Molnar hunker down and decide “later than sooner” and stick it out until this ship is safely in port and a changeover of crew is necessary for all those who are ready to cash in their NC chips.
Trying to remain objective, and failing miserably. You?
how often go coaches last 10 years anywhere?
Especially a program with a national profile and national championship expectations? Take out Paterno and Bowden, and I’ll bet you’re talking about very, very few guys. Even if they’re meeting expectations, at some point burnout takes hold.
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