Counting Down the Irish with Keith Arnold: 20-16
by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT
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We are moving on to the next set of players in our countdown of the top 25 Notre Dame players, led by Keith Arnold over at Inside the Irish at NBC Sports.
Here's the link to Arnold's new post, and the next 5 players will come after the jump.
Remember, this list is an average of the lists from several bloggers. Here are players 20-16:
20. TJ Jones (So. WR)
19. Louis Nix (So. NT)
18. Braxston Cave (Sr. C)
17. Tommy Rees (So. QB)
16. Prince Shembo (So. OLB)
My personal list looked like this:
20. Sean Cwynar (Sr. NT)
19. Ethan Johnson (Sr. DE)
18. TJ Jones (So. WR)
17. Carlo Calabrese (Jr. MLB)
16. Tommy Rees (So. QB)
- As I have already mentioned in the first post of this series, I did not put any players who haven't seen the field in an Irish uniform on my list. If I did, I probably would have put Nix in this group.
- TJ Jones and Tommy Rees are very close to where I had them.
- This is a good spot for starters who are solid, if not spectacular. I think all of the players on both of the lists are exactly that. Ethan Johnson would be the poster boy for this group in my opinion.
- There is a lot of potential for Jones, Cave, and Shembo to move up quite a bit in these rankings.
- I'm less bullish on Jones now than I was this time last year. I'm not sure how he's going to handle being an outside receiver at 5'11" and with someone like Davaris Daniels breathing down his neck from day one.
- I like Cave to have a very good season and move up a few spots.
- Prince Shembo should be one of our defenses' best playmakers. I won't be surprised if he's easily in the top 10 for this list next year.
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I can't say I have any serious issues with the list
I’ve already expressed my thoughts on putting players on the list who haven’t played a snap yet (Nix) and I think Shembo is a little high for a guy who played spot duty last year, but he certainly played well and will probably be the starter at OLB opposite Fleming, so I can live with it.
I think EJ and Cave have the best chance of moving high up this list by the end of the year. I think Cave was our second-best lineman last season (behind Zach Martin) and word on the street is he was one of the most improved players during the spring. I’ve been waiting for EJ to beak out and have a monster season since watching him during his freshman season in 2008. Hopefully he’ll finally pull through.
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Yeah Fleming didn't play a whole lot...
But 4.5 sacks with what amounted to very little playing time is pretty impressive. He’s super explosive, and like you said probably a starter this year.
I echo your thoughts on Cave, but I’m less high on Johnson. I just think he’s going to be the “eat up your blocker” guy and not making a lot of plays otherwise.
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by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 25, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be perfectly happy with a performance like that for Johnson this season
I’ve just always been waiting for him to become a terror when it seemed like he spent the entire Hawaii Bowl in the backfield. But in the 3-4 defense, the ends are usually there to occupy blockers while the OLBs make the big play. It sounds like Johnson bulked up this offseason (hopefully in a good way) so maybe he can live up to his 5-star hype this season.
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Obviously I meant Shembo and not Fleming
Why didn’t anyone correct me!!?!?
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by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 26, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
20-16 you say?
Why does that seem so familiar?
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by stempke on Jul 26, 2011 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Did I green that?
Yes, Yes I did.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jul 27, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we'll keep it at 5
But we need more greenery around here ya know?
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by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If not greenery for comments
Then I was thinking more #sour
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by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 26, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the rec to green should be proportional to the amount of traffic you get.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 26, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So we should set it at 20!!?!??!???
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by Eric Murtaugh on Jul 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
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