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Notre Dame Football Recruting 2012: Remaining Positional Priorities

Last week, I broke down how the roster will likely look in 2012 based on returning players, likely 5th years, and recruiting (as it stands today). For reference, the article can be found here.



Based on my assessment, I saw three key areas that need to be addressed this cycle, namely QB, OL, and DE. Eric also pointed out that OLB appears to be a bit short, and with the de-commitment from David Perkins earlier this fall, it appears that the staff was planning on taking a second OLB in this class.

Official offers and targets after the jump.

Star-divide

Based on the positions of need (maybe we will abbreviate this the OFD-PON), we will start with the QB position.

QB Offers/Targets:

The QB list is pretty short, because it begins and ends with one name--Gunner Kiel (Columbus, IN). It appeared that earlier in the summer the staff was targeting taking a QB in this class, and had a pretty short list of targets (Kiel, Matty Mauk, Cyler Miles). By the end of the summer, all of the QBs had committed elsewhere (Kiel-Indiana, Mauk-Mizzou, Miles-Washington), and it appeared that ND would go without in 2012.

Then October rolled around, and suddenly Kiel had a change of heart and reopened his recruiting.

The Irish appear to be the leader, and he is tentatively scheduled to announce in early January and enroll in his school of choice for the spring semester. I will save a full preview for when/if he commits, but simply put--he is the entire package, and would be an ideal fit for BK's offensive system.

OL Offers/Targets:

In the two classes that Brian Kelly has signed as head coach at Notre Dame, there has been one underlying theme to the offensive linemen he recruits--athleticism. Watching the line play this fall, that last statement is obvious. The OL are asked to do many things, and blocking in space is at the top of the list.

The 2012 class already features two OL commitments: Mark Harrell (6'5"/270--Charlotte, NC) and Taylor Decker (6'8"/315--Vandalia, OH). Harrell has been working with a coach on playing all three OL positions, including center (which is a real need). Decker has the size to play right away at either tackle position, but long-term will likely end up at right tackle.

Based on the numbers at particular positions, the one that is a little short is a having a true LT, so that is where the staff will likely focus their search.

Of the offers extended, there are three players that fit the bill: Zach Banner (Lakewood, WA), Ronnie Stanley (Las Vegas, NV), and Joshua Garnett (Puyallup, WA). Of the list, Banner already visited for the USC game, and the other two are set to come to South Bend this coming weekend for the banquet/awards show on Friday.

Hopefully the Irish will make an impression on one of the three, but there isn't one of them that is currently considered a ND lean yet.

The staff has done a great job of recruiting players along the line that can fill in at multiple positions, so if they don't sign a third OL this cycle things will still be fine--and likely bring back another 5th year OL for 2012.

DE Offers/Targets:

By my count, there is one current commitment at the DE position--JarronJones (Rochester, NY). Depending on the service or person you consult, they may include Sheldon Day (Indianapolis, IN) and Romeo Okwara (Charlotte, NC) in that list. I think Day is a DT and Okwara an OLB, but what do I really know? The staff has shown that they are able to shift players around to fill needs, and DE is no exception.

The ND staff has a luxury at DE in recruiting for 2012--they are only losing one player (Ethan Johnson) and have already filled that need. That being said, they can still sign another player for depth, but it should be a top-flight guy (a.k.a. difference maker). Based on my criteria, there is really only one name out there--Arik Armstead (Elk Grove, CA).

Armstead, a one-time USC commit, has received offers from basically every major program in college football. There are two advantages that ND has: (1) he wants to play defense when most schools want him for an OT, and (2) he wants to play basketball. Needless to say, Brian Kelly has Mike Brey on board to bring in Armstead as a dual-sport athlete.

OLB Offers/Targets:

Currently, the Irish have one commitment from an OLB, the aforementioned Romeo Okwara (which is an awesome name).

It appears that there are two targets left at the position: Ifeadi Odenigbo (Dayton, OH) and Ken Ekanem (Clifton, VA). Odenigbo took an official visit for the USC game and has publicly stated that academics are a top priority. Ekanem appears to be one of the players to recently appear on the Irish radar and is scheduled to visit in a few weeks. Both are exceptional athletes that would benefit from Bob Diaco's system.

Since finding athletes to play the OLB position at the collegiate level can be a difficult proposition, I wouldn't be surprised if the staff wanted to sign both players. They look to have an edge with Ekanem (the only OV scheduled right now) and are in the hunt for Odenigbo (who doesn't seem to give much indication on preference right now).

Wrapping It All Up:

The Irish would be fortunate to sign any of these guys, and quite honestly are in line for at least one or two of the players outlined. With about 6-7 scholarships left for 2012, the coaching staff has the luxury to focus on brining in the best talent left. In addition to the positions listed above (QB, OT, DE, OLB), I think that you will see another WR and DB signed as well.

February 1st is right around the corner.

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Really good breakdown...

but I think you may have undersold how aggressive the coaching staff has been with continuing to recruit the WR and DB positions. I know they have a few of each in the fold already, but the majority of their outstanding offers and recent in-home visits are to players in those two position groups. I think they are still looking at bringing in 3-4 elite WRs and/or DBs.

That said, the guys you mentioned would be cornerstones to any incoming class; getting any one or two of them would be huge for ND moving forward. It will be interesting to see if they can get a commit or at least some really strong momentum on a couple of the guys at awards banquet (Kiel, Stanley, Garnett, ATH Davonte Neal).

by alstein on Dec 7, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

I agree on WR and DB

The analysis here is based purely on projected numbers/depth for 2012, that is why I bumped these positions above WR and DB. I definitely think the staff looks to take one more of each of them. I will cover the remaining spots next week.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

WHAT ABOUT RUNNING BACK!

….he screamed while still lamenting Keith Marshall.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 7, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

We have disagreed on that one for a while...

Keith Marshall would have been a great one to land (he would be in that difference maker category), but I personally don’t see the need for a second RB this cycle. Next fall they will have Wood, GAIII, McDaniel, Mahone, Roberson and potentially Riddick seeing some action there. In a single-back offense, I think the depth chart is full. I know Russell is still on the board, so we will see if the staff goes in that direction.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you think...

that Roberson can contribute next year? Kelly has said a bunch of times that he has a long road back, but that could mean a lot of different things. Back for the spring and needing to get his strength and speed back for the season? Back for the summer to get back in the mix later in the season? Back in the fall just to practice and look to 2013? You piqued my interest by mentioning him in your list; I’m wondering if you think he can play next year at all. Great back coming out of HS and would compliment Wood/Riddick/GA3 perfectly when healthy.

by alstein on Dec 7, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

adam i see no cam on your list

are we as a whole kinda looking for cam mcdaniel?
i haven’t seen enough of the kid to know whether he’s super shifty and quick to be effective in this offense, but if he is, i think a dimension like that could be use (ala having sam mcguffie in a spread or something)

by 4pointshooter on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I guess I just don’t know what he brings to the table. I was just trying to describe Roberson as the bigger, between-the-tackles kinda guy that can compliment those 3 speed guys. I’m sure certain biases of mine make me feel as though McDaniel isn’t the archetypal athletic speed back that those other three guys are…

That said, there is plenty of precedent for guys like McDaniel that don’t do anything great but do everything solid and can contribute quite a bit. If Danny Woodhead can play in the NFL, I’m confident Cam McDaniel can be a quality RB for ND.

by alstein on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

big difference with the danny woodhead example

danny woodhead can play for the Patriots not necessarily in the NFL (see also: sergio brown)

by 4pointshooter on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Roberson was hurt in spring practice

Had to look this up, but it was a partial ACL and a full LCL tear. We will have to get the offical time-table from the resident injury expert (Irishane), but I would think he would be able to go in the spring.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Roberson makes a full recovery

We could use another bigger back to fill the Jonas Gray void. Otherwise next season we’ll have to get by with a bunch of speed backs (Wood, GAIII, Riddick) or hope Mahone is ready to go.

by burger23 on Dec 7, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Cierre does pretty well getting the tough yards.

I think he’ll only get better at it as he continues to develop vision and strength. I think that he is very much a work in progress physically.

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're right, though, having Cam-Rob able to contribute would help this group's productivity.

GAIII and Cam McD will have more to time to develop, and maybe Riddick could move back to WR, though who knows if that would be a good thing.

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Cierre certainly has gotten better between the tackles

I think he’s capable of being the feature back – I mean, he was for the first half of the season – but it would be nice to have another RB to compliment him. I think Cierre is money on the edge, so a bigger back who can work the inside would be a nice addition.

by burger23 on Dec 7, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm always late to the party

I’m having trouble finding for sure whether or not Cam had knee surgery (ACL reconstruction) – can someone help me out here? Because he only had a partial tear, depending on the percentage of intact fibers, either surgery or conservative care with PT will be recommended. Given he was out for so long, I’m guessing he had surgery but the only article I can find to that end is an ESPN article from March 30.

ACL reconstruction surgery is a minimum 6 month recovery time frame (up to 12 months) – this would put Cam around the beginning of October at the earliest. Given how Cierre and Jonas were performing, it’s not a surprise that they would be more conservative with Roberson (and it sounds like his rehab was going slower than expected via Kelly in a press conference).

If all goes well, I would say he’s 50/50 for spring practices but should be cleared for the summer for sure. There’s been no indication about damage to the cartilage in his knee (only the LCL and partial ACL).

The LCL (lateral collateral) really isn’t much of a concern. KLM had a weird injury where it pulled from the bone and required surgery. Usually if you tear this ligament it heals within 6 weeks on its own – damage to this ligament wouldn’t put him out this far, it’s usually the ACL and recovery.

by Irishane on Dec 7, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The MCL and LCL do

The ACL and PCL do not. The blood supply to the center of the knee sucks. This is why they don’t heal by themselves, why they don’t have the same integrity if you sew them back together (plus the fact that they usually blow up when you tear them – usually not two pretty stumps of ligaments), and why it takes over 6 months before you can get back to cutting activities – it takes a long time for your body to incorporate the reconstructed ligament.

But the MCL and LCL – even with complete tears, most people do well with conservative therapy. The ligaments heal with a great blood supply. It just takes about 6 weeks for those people to be able to get back to sports though.

by Irishane on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Did someone say ligaments?

I was just looking for an excuse to repost this from EDSBS

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Dec 8, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I remember this exact picture from my Netters Anatomy book

The Ecto Cooler ligament was first described by Dr. Slimer in the mid-80s.

by Irishane on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tricky surgery

Once you obtain both donor ligaments, you must put the My Country Tis of Knee on the right and keep it separate from the Ecto Cooler ligament at all times. Otherwise, they merge into what becomes effectively the ipsilateral ligament, with unpredictable results.

by Michael Collins on Dec 11, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Irishane, I have an ACL question for you.

I read that when they repaired Dayne Crist’s ACL (right knee) they took the graft from his left patellar tendon, which is the tendon that ruptured almost exactly one year later and ended his 2010 season. Does that tendon subsequently rupturing indicate that there was something wrong with the original ACL procedure? Or that something was wrong with the rehab process? Is it just dumb luck, or an unavoidable risk of a graft like that? It seems uncommon, but man, if I though my season was ended because somebody messed up when repairing my previous season-ending injury, I would be soooo frustrated.

by fishoutofwater on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it was just dumb luck

With that procedure (the patellar tendon graft), you usually take the middle 1/3rd of the patellar tendon (I had this done myself) of either the same knee or opposite knee.

The more common complication with this procedure is tendonitis of the patellar tendon. There have been cases described of patella fracture (knee cap fracture) and patellar rupture after harvesting the patellar tendon but both are very rare and I’ve never seen either in my training and practice. The patellar tendon is still a really really thick and strong tendon even removing 1/3rd of it. I think it was just dumb luck that it happened.

by Irishane on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I know

I guess with Marshall off the board running back doesn’t seem as important. But I would still bring in another body like Russell, but certainly no reaches at this point.

It seems like Riddick back to RB next year is a distinct possibility now. That would seem to point to a lack of depth (and probably why we should get another running back) but it really just points to a lack of proven players at the position. We have a lot of young guys there of course.

I’d like to see McDaniel get more PT next year (how bad will we regret him playing this year with 4 carries or whatever he had—-yes I know he played ST, but still.) and Riddick potentially moving to RB. He’ll be stuck as the 4th back (likely) next year again.

Bummer.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Cheer up E

Two Words: Diamond Formation

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You could run the diamond with 2 TE's if you wanted to, I suppose.

Or 2 HBs and a TE. Or an option play with The Experience at QB and all 3 HBs back there.

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Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

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by KrilDog on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT ABOUT INSIDE BACKERS???

I’ve been kind of nervous about this position for a while.

Per Whiskey’s Eligibility Chart, we can invite A-Mac and Poz Jr. back next year if we want to, though I doubt we will. We may have Te’o for one more year, and we’ll likely have Calabrese and Fox for two more years, if we want them, though I don’t think we will unless they really step up their respective games. Behind those guys are Kendall Moore and Justin Utopo, both of which have three years of eligility remaining after this year. The coaching staff is high on K-Mo, and he’s shown flashes, but we’ve not seen anything and we’ve heard very little about ‘Topo. Grace and Rabasa sit behind K-Mo and UT with four years of eligibility left. The staff is high on Grace and Rabasa was thought by many to be one of his class’s big-time sleepers, but missed much of this year with a shoulder injury, AND he’s never played inside backer before.

But let’s look two years down the road. We have Foxy and Calabrese, two guys with a lot of heart but not a ton of athletic ability. Maybe they’ll start to develop and surprise us. We’ll also have K-Mo, who should be primed to step up. I’m not expecting a ton of production from ‘Topo, since we’ve heard nothing about him for some time. Grace and Rabasa are two highly touted guys, but there’s no one in the class behind them. So we’re looking at a 5-man mix of CC, Fox, Moore, Grace and Rabasa—but only Moore and Grace are good bets to have the mental and physical abilities necessary for the position. CC, Fox, and Rabasa are all unknowns in either their mental or physical gifts. This is not really quality depth, and there’s very little room for injury or guys not panning out.

Most people seem to think that you shouldn’t go a year without taking a QB. You only need to start one QB at a time. Your inside ‘backers are the QB’s of your defense. You need to start two at a time.

Why don’t we have an inside ’backer in this class, and why is no one concerned?

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think MLB is any worse off than other areas

We’re not graduating anyone and there is a nice mix of veterans and youngsters for the next two years.

I do understand some of your concerns though.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not panicking for the next two years.

But we’re pretty much relying on one or two guys, and if they don’t pan out or if they—knock on wood, God forbid, get injured—then we could be in trouble.

I’m worried more about after the next two years. We want guys to have time to develop at this position and we’re not taking an inside backers this year. And one of our inside backers from last year has never played the position before.

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It looks like Baratti will move to ILB

I think that move makes some sense, since his size and athletic ability should translate to the position (6’2"/215). He has about 25-30 lbs to put on, but I haven’t watched his tape so its hard to tell how physical he will be playing the position.

To be honest, there wasn’t a ton of talent at the position for 2012, so I think the staff is passing on the rest knowing that they likely only lose Te’o after next year.

Moore doesn’t look very big, but has been solid on ST and in mop-up duty.

You guys are really stealing my thunder for next week…there won’t be much left to cover.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Diaco on Grace

From ISD:

"He’s going to be awesome, he really is," Diaco said, gushing with praise for his freshman linebacker. "He’s a werewolf, he really is. He’s got it all. Smart, big, tough, aggressive, fast, demonstrative, communicator, he’s going to be a beast."

Diaco continued to heap praise on Grace without any prodding.

"It’s because he’s got the whole package," continued the Notre Dame linebackers coach. "He’s aggressive, nasty, loves football, loves this place (Notre Dame), demonstrative communicator, runs fast, large body, hard worker."

Daaaaaaaamn!

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 7, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

"Werewolf"

Awesome.

"You've got to have poise. You've got to walk away. You're a long snapper!"
B. Kelly

by lordsummer on Dec 7, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone hear if Molnar is staying or going to UMass?

If he goes, who would you like to see as OC? How about bringing Iannello back, he was also anawesome recruiter.

by Bill Rubin on Dec 7, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think Ianello is a good coach at all

Remember when Kelly was basically ripping Floyd for his fundamentals? And how Golden Tate’s fundamentals were abysmal when he got to the NFL?

Their position coach was Ianello.

Good recruiter perhaps, but he’s dead weight as an actual coach.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That's how I feel too

Ianello was a recruiter, not a coach. He got hired at Akron for his recruiting chops. We have enough good recruiters, so let’s just promote Warriner and find a solid QB coach, which will probably be an important position in the next year or two.

by burger23 on Dec 7, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not really up to date on other teams' QB coaches

We just need someone who is familiar with the spread offense. Probably someone from a smaller school – I doubt, say, Oregon’s QB coach would move without getting a promotion. A couple possible schools to look at: Southern Miss, Cincinnati, Northwestern, Baylor, Toledo, Northern Illinois. All of those are smaller schools we could maybe pry a coach from and they all run a spread offense. I have absolutely no idea who their QB coaches are and if any would be willing to move, I’m just firing off suggestions.

With EG, the Voodoo Child, and possibly Kiel on the roster, a good QB coach is going to be very important.

by burger23 on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't underestimate a reshuffle either...

I wouldn’t be surprised to see coaches changing the position they coach (like Alford did when BK took over). Warriner is OL and running game coordinator—I doubt he could add OC without dropping something. I think they will try to identify a coach that fits what they want to do and is versitile enough to coach a few different positions, depending on need.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Another way to look at it....Tate, Floyd, Quinn, Clausen....all did great at ND.

As far as pros they are bad…we dont know about Floyd yet. My feeling is…I only care about how they play at ND, what they do in the pros means nothing to me, unless of course they go to the Giants.

So as far as teaching them to be great WR’s at ND, he did a good job…same with the QB coach. If their fundemaentals were that horrible they woulnt have played at ND.

by Bill Rubin on Dec 7, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Not so fast...

Floyd and Tate are very talented players that got by on their talent and had an accurate QB in Clausen who could get the ball to them – Tate said in his interview he didn’t do much work at ND. Neither one could run routes very well, but they didn’t have to be able run great routes to look impressive. Floyd’s main play until Kelly started coaching was “go long” – which we could get away with while Clausen as QB. However without Clausen, if Floyd had kept relying solely on athleticism and if Tate were still around doing the same, our opinion of these players as ND wide receivers might be much lower. I agree with not being concerned with how well they do in the NFL, but the difference here is Tate may have been even better for ND if he had been taught better fundamentals — Floyd clearly became a much better receiver when he was and one of the best blockers on the edge as well.

by DenverIrish on Dec 7, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Brey could always use another PF/C

I would love to see Armstead come here.

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by KrilDog on Dec 7, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Curious as to how this works

Where does that scholarship go? Is it a basketball or a FB or both?
Can we have him use a BB scholarship and walk on to FB, giving us a freebie?
Kind of shady but legitimately wondering if this is possible

by Goose ND on Dec 7, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it takes up both

Because otherwise the SEC would exploit the hell out of it

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Dec 7, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe that Armstead would take a scholarship from both programs

Shane Walton was a LAX recruit while a FB walk-on. He eventually received the FB schollie and either gave up Lax or became a preferred walk on there.

The primary reason that SEC schools can’t use that to oversign is that mens BB is a pretty big moneymaker on its own. It wouldn’t make financial sense to an AD to severely gut 1 program’s chances to make the tournament by exposing a good percentage of its available athletes to the rigors (an injury possibility) of football.

Well hello there hangover. Fancy meeting you here this bright Thursday morning.

by Cranked_Irish on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you sure?

I could have sworn that came up last year when Golson wanted to play both sports

Even the Pope hates the Trojans

by Publius2010 on Dec 8, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

This is nitpicky

But wasn’t Walton a soccer player? I think he won freshman all-american awards for soccer then it was a surprise he jumped over to football and was so dominant.

by Irishane on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, there were interesting arrangements with Yeatman and lax.

I don’t remember the story exactly. It might have been, they wanted him to redshirt in football and go on a lax scholarship, except that meant that he couldn’t practice with football at all? I’m blanking on the details, but there was some interesting maneuvering that came out later that I was oblivious to at the time it was happening.

Football is king. If you’re getting athletic money and you’re participating in football, you’re a counter for football (which is a “headcount” sport, as distinguished from most others which are “equivalence” sports where partial scholarships are given).

by Mr Wednesday on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I was thinking both and went with Walton as the more accomplished of the two

but still mixed ’em up.

Back when there was a wrestling program, I was recruited as a preferred walk on because I already had my NROTC scholarship, so I had a little exposure to the maneuvering & rules circa 1992.

Of course, wrestling got Title IX’d the summer before I started my frosh year.

Well hello there hangover. Fancy meeting you here this bright Thursday morning.

by Cranked_Irish on Dec 9, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct

Sorry, too much travel…not enough sleep

Well hello there hangover. Fancy meeting you here this bright Thursday morning.

by Cranked_Irish on Dec 9, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The NCAA rules are pretty clear on this

He would take up one of the football scholarships. I was curious back when the Shark and then Tate were playing baseball as well to see if it would give the staff any more flexibility…it doesn’t. The NCAA says that if a scholarship athlete is playing football, that scholarship has to count against the football total (and doesn’t impact the other sport).

by Jim Miesle on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

What about this McNamara fellow?

Wasn’t there a lot of buzz about a commitment?

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

He is definitely still in the mix...

Right now, it appears that it might be down to ND and Michigan, with UofM already having one or two TEs in their class. A lot of what happens hinges on Eiftert (IMO), since McNamara wants to have a shot at playing right away.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

This

QB-Kiel
RB-Kevarie Russell(good fit for spread)
OL-Ronnie Stanley(hunch)
TE-McNamara(for sure If Eifert leaves)
WR-Davonte Neal or Jarred Payton and Nelson Agholor(please God!)
DL-Armstead
OLB-Ekanamu
DB-Poole

by tlndma on Dec 7, 2011 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

RB is a bigger need than QB

Who backs up CWood is a huge question, even in a one back offense.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Dec 8, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

I know many are worried, but I am not one of them

There is plenty of talent (however raw it is) with GAIII, McDaniel, Riddick (possibly) along with Mahone and Roberson (when he is healthy).

by Jim Miesle on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

It's weird

Because a few months ago I would have said RB was a much bigger need. But now we’re going into next year with only 3 QB’s and I think picking up a fourth is pretty damn important.

But still, given the nature of the position (always 3 or 4 see significant time every year) I believe you always should recruit two running backs every year.

With that said, I think we’ll be okay with just Mahone this year.

The quartet of Wood, Riddick, Atkinson, and McDaniel is going to be very explosive next year.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 8, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

the talent level is very questionable

RB looks a lot sketchier than QB. While I agree getting a QB every year is a good idea, not getting one this year will be less of a problem than getting just one RB. Rees, Hendrix and Golson return, that looks a lot better than the RB position. GAIII looks more like a WR than a RB. McDaniel? Who knows? Roberson? Can he stay healthy? Riddick? He is the key. If he can be a solid #2 behind CWood, recruiting just the one (Mahone) might not bite ND in the butt.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Needless to say

I’m very high on GA3 and McDaniel.

If GA3 stays at RB, I think he’ll be very good. And McDaniel I think has something special about him. It’s not like they were mediocre players in high school, nor going to be completely inexperienced next year.

I like that Kelly spoke very highly of Roberson, but I’d be more skeptical of him with his injury.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 8, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Two words - Noah Spence

Diaco and Kelly have both visited. Spence has now ruled out his prior favorite, Penn State. He is now down to Florida, USC, and LSU. He has not visited and we are trying to get him to set up an official visit.

by Michael Collins on Dec 11, 2011 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the update MC...

could the legend continue to grow? It seems like a long-shot, since Spence wants to play DE in a 4-3, but I am sure that BK and BD will figure out a way to use him and explain how he would fit in the defense.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 11, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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