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Coaching Carousel 2012

Multiple firings of head coaches this weekend have signaled that the Coaching Carousel season has begun in earnest.

Moves so far - 27 Head Coaching positions have opened up - 13 BCS, 14 non-BCS:

(Average over the past 7 years - 20.7 Head Coaching positions, 10.6 BCS. Highest number of new HCs in those seven years - 2007 & 2011 - 24 new HCs. HC hire record for one year is 25 in 2001 with lows of 13 in 2002 and 2004.)

Hires--Biographies linked in Bold Red

BCS Conferences (11)

Arizona - hired Rich Rodriguez. ASU had fired Mike Stoops on Oct 10th, leaving with a record of 41-50 but only 27-38 in conference. Three of RichRod's former assistants, who were coaching for Pitt this season, have left Pitt to join RR in Arizona. A fourth former assistant, now at Indiana, will also be coming to Arizona. Zona has a $2 million budget for RR's assistant coaching staff.

Arizona State hired Todd Graham, HC at Pittsburgh (tenure one year). They had fired Dennis Erickson after five seasons and a 31-30 record, including six wins over FCS schools. His conference record was 21-21 including four losses to end this season at 6-6 and elimination from the Pac-12 championship game. Erickson will coach the Sun Devils in their bowl game. The Sun Devils were rejected by Kevin Sumlin when A&M job opened up. Talks with SMU's June Jones were ended by ASU just before details of a contract were agreed upon. Kyle Whittingham was "interested" until he got a new contract with Utah. Best article on their travails.

Illinois hired Tim Beckman, HC at Toledo. Illinois fired Ron Zook who was 34-51 over seven seasons, including only two winning seasons and a 18-38 record against Big Ten opponents. This year the Illinois lost six straight after winning their first six games.

Kansas - hired current Florida OC, former KC Chiefs and NE Patriots OC, and former ND HC Charlie Weis. KU had fired Turner Gill after two seasons and a 5-19 record. Gill had a contract guaranteeing him $2 million per year for five years.

North Carolina - hired Larry Fedora, HC Southern Mississippi. Everette Winthers was interim head coach this year after Butch Davis was fired this summer. The Heels went 7-5 with a 3-5 conference record.

Ohio State - hired Urban Meyer to replace Luke Fickell, who was the Buckeyes' interim coach this year, after Jim Tressel was fired. Fickell went 6-6 with a 3-5 conference record

Ole Miss hired Arkansas State HC Hugh Freeze. Freeze was an assistant at Ole Miss from 2005-07 and OC there in 2010. Ole Miss had forced Houston Nutt out on November 7th effective at the end of the season. Nutt had a 24-23 overall record, and was just 10-20 in SEC play. "...it comes down to one thing. It’s not a graduation rate. it’s not community service. it’s about winning. It’s a big, big, big business.” Ole Miss AD Pete Boone will resign in 2012.

Penn State hired New England OC Bill O'Brien. Penn State fired Joe Paterno on November 9th. Tom Bradley was named interim head coach.

Pittsburgh hired Wisconsin OC Paul Chryst. Todd Graham left for Arizona State.

Rutgers - Hired OL coach Kyle Flood. Greg Schiano left for the Tampa Bay Bucs.

Texas A&M hired Houston HC Kevin Sumlin to become their new HC. A&M's President has said before the Texas game that Mike Sherman's job was safe. Nine days later, Sherman has been fired. His record is 25-25 in four years at A&M with a 1-3 record against Texas.

UCLA hired Jim L. Mora (oftern referred to as Jim Mora, Jr.) His father, Jim E. Mora, was on the coaching staff for one year there. The Bruins had fired Rick Neuheisel but will allow him to coach the Pac 12 championship game. He is completing his fourth year with a record of 21-28, but only 3-25 against teams with a winning record and was 0-4 against Southern Cal.

Washington State - hired Mike Leach. Paul Wulff was fired after his fourth year. Wulff has a 9-40 record, the worst in WSU coaching history. Wazzu finished in the cellar of the Pac-12 this year (North Division) with a 2-7 conference record and 4-8 record. .

Non-BCS Conferences (14)

Akron hired North Alabama HC Terry Bowden. Akron had fired former Notre Dame assistant coach Rob Ianelllo after two seasons and a 2-22 record, with a 1-15 conference record.

Arkansas State hired Auburn OC Gus Malzahn. Hugh Freeze had left for Ole Miss. Malzahn's contract terms were released with a base salary of $156K plus "all profits from television and radio shows, football camps and clinics" and bonus incentives. Malzahn was the highest paid coordinator in college football last year at $1.3 million. If Malzahn left after one year, he would pay “liquidated damages” of $700,000, dropping to $350,000 after two years and $200,000 after three years.

Colorado State hired Alabama OC Jim McElwain. CSU had fired Steve Fairchild whose record was 16-33 in four years overall and 7-24 against MWC opponents.

Florida Atlantic hired Nebraska DC Carl Pelini. Howard Schnellenberger announced his retirement on August 11th effective the end of the season.

Fresno State hired Texas A&M DC Tim DeRuyter. They had fired Pat Hill after 15 seasons. Over the past six seasons, Fresno has been only 11-29 against teams with a .500 record or better and only 3-15 against the top three WAC teams. Ticket sales have dropped 42% over that period.

Hawaii hired Norm Chow Utah OC, who grew up in Honolulu and is an alumnus of Punahou School. Chow has extensive experience as an OC in college and in the NFL. This is his first HC opportunity. Greg McMackin had retired.

Houston hired Tony Levine Houston Associate HC/WR coach. Kevin Sumlin had left for Texas A&M.

Massachusetts hired Notre Dame's OC Charlie Molner. UMass fired Kevin Morris after three years and a 16-17 record. The Minutemen will be in the FBS subdivision next year in the MAC and will play their home games in Gillette Field, Foxboro.

Memphis hired TCU co-OC Justin Fuente. Memphis fired Larry Porter after two seasons and a 3-21 overall record, 1-15 in conference. Ten of the twenty-one losses came by 35 points or more.

New Mexico hired former Notre Dame HC Bob Davie. UNM had fired Mike Locksley on Sept 25 after the Lobos lost to FCS Sam Houston State to go 2-26 in 2 1/3 yrs.

Southern Mississippi hired South Carolina DC Ellis Johnson. Larry Fedora had left for North Carolina.

Toledo hired Toledo OC Matt Campbell. Tim Beckman had left for Illinois.

Tulane hired Saints WR coach Curtis Johnson. Bob Toledo was forced to resign on Oct. 18th with a 15-40 record over four plus years.

UAB hired Arkansas OC Garrick McGee. UAB had fired Neil Calloway after five seasons of never reaching a .500 record. Overall, Calloway was 18-42, losing their finale to up-to-then winless FAU.

Hires Breakdown -

BCS schools (13) - 1 HC from BCS school (Todd Graham), 4 HCs from non-BCS schools (Tim Beckman, Larry Fedora, Hugh Freeze and Kevin Sumlin), 3 former HCs (Rich Rodriguez, Mike Leach and Urban Meyer), 1 former HC with mostly NFL experience (Jim Mora), 1 former HC working as college OC (Charlie Weis), 1 NFL OC (Bill O'Brien), 1 college OC with no HC experience (Paul Chryst) and 1 Assistant Coach (Kyle Flood).

Non-BCS schools (14) - 11 coordinators, 1 NFL position coach, 1 FCS HC (formerly a BCS coach) and 1 former HC.

Three former coaches hired were working in broadcasting when hired - Bob Davie and Urban Meyer for ESPN and Jim Mora for NFL Network.

Notes:

Over the last four years, eighty-five of the 120 FBS schools (70.83%) have changed head coaches.

Gill, Porter and Ianello had all completed their second year. Locksley was just into his third year. Their combined record was 12-88.

Conclusion: The 27 total head coaching hires sets a record for any one year. The 12 BCS HCs and 14 non-BCS HCs are more than the average hires for each category. Unless Urban Meyer retires for personal or health reasons, we are done for 2011-12.

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I can't believe we're letting Meyer get away again!

But if Swarbrick acts now, he can fire Kelly and pick up one of these available coaches like Ron Zook or Houston Nutt, coaches who have been at BIG TIME PROGRAMS. THAT will finally show us that the administration is ready to get SERIOUS rather than messing around with small timey Kelly. Or BETTER YET!!! We hire Stoops, since he’s available! We could finally get Stoops as our coach! Oh, I think I’m having an event in my nether regions!

/note: NOT SERIOUS AT ALL
//another note: I wanted to joke about being able to hire Joe Paterno, but couldn’t do it.
///also also wick: yes, I know it’s not THAT Stoops.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 28, 2011 4:47 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Saban and Meyers are chomping at the bit to coach at ND

I’m not sure why we can’t hire Bob Stoops as HC, Saban as DC, and Meyer as OC. The very fact that this hasn’t happened yet is a clear sign that Swarbrick and Jenkins are not right for the job and that the university as a whole is going down the drain.

/I hope I don’t have to say this, but ALSO NOT SERIOUS AT ALL

by burger23 on Nov 28, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Irvin Myers and Rick Savan?

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 28, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

God Bless you, KG.

I had a debate today with a friend who made the Meyer argument and told me I didn’t want to win ND to win championships because I said hiring him would have been a mistake in 2005 and is a mistake now. Thank you for making me laugh.

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Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.

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by KrilDog on Nov 29, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Ask you friend why he hates Notre Dame?

I mean, if he wants ND to be a team of thugs who shoot off AK’s in hotel rooms and sent threatening text messages to ex-girlfriends, then sure, by all means, hire Meyer…

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Then ask him why he hates America and tell him to love it get the hell out.

In my experience, that’s the best way to win an argument while still staying friends.

And KG, you forgot to mention girlfriend-choking, didn’t you?

by Mouth of the South on Nov 29, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And drug possession, and a list of other things.

There’s only so many hours in the day, man.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Here are some other coaches to think about

Although some obviously won’t be fired so soon.

Kevin Wilson-Indiana

1-10 in his 1st year in Bloomington. This guy has one of the best resumes in college—-just goes to show how hard it can be to win sometimes. Will he eventually turn it around?

Danny Hope-Purdue

11-16 through 3 seasons with a rather significant drop off from the previous regime. Does beating Ohio State and going to a bowl allow him to keep his job?

Derek Dooley-Tennessee

11-14 through two seasons in Knoxville, but 4-12 in SEC play—-including a pathetic 1-7 this year. Since he followed Kiffin and had his QB injured he’s probably good for another year or two though.

DeWayne Walker-New Mexico State

9-27 in wherever New Mexico State is—-and only 4-17 in WAC play.

Robb Akey-Idaho

He’s had one 8-win season in five years but is just 19-42 overall. Take out that successful 2009 season and he’s won just 5 conference games in 4 years (9-29 overall).

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 28, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

Some think Jeff Quinn at Buffalo is in on the hotseat too.

If Kelly loses an offensive assistant in this carousel I would think Kelly would offer Quinn a soft landing.

What about Diaco? I still think he’s a little young and a little raw to be a HC. Of course he probably doesn’t think so.

by whiskey OFD on Nov 28, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

So funny that you brought that up!

See below…I was in the middle of typing.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 28, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

My take

is Diaco would be the first to tell you he isn’t ready. He seems a very level headed guy to me, I think his first two years at ND have been an eyeopener for him.

by tlndma on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Hope is going to a bowl game, so I think he's safe for now

I thought Dooley would be ok, but losing to Kentucky is pretty bad.

Wilson should get a few more years. Turning around Indiana is a, shall we say, difficult task.

by burger23 on Nov 28, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thoughts

Would you really fire a coach after one season? I agree with Burger (and perhaps, you) that Wilson, Hope and Dooley are safe for now.

Akey is a definite Hot Seat candidate. A record of 19-32 with a 2-9 record this year – his fifth – garners that award. The Vandals have a game this weekend against Nevada. His teams went 3-2 against New Mexico State (in Las Cruces).

Walker probably gets another year. He completed his third year and, if you were in charge of state finances, would you eat both Locksley’s and Walker’s buyout in the same year? Or maybe there’s another ESPN announcer that needs a job.

by Michael Collins on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction...

Hope is 15-21 through 3 seasons.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 29, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd also like to bring up another topic that might fit well here

I almost never agree with the majority of posts over at NDN—-but there is one thing that is consistently complained about that I tend to agree with.

And that is, Brian Kelly needs to do something about the playcalling duties.

It’s obvious that there is (in however small of a fashion) some sort of disconnect between Kelly and Molnar up in the booth. We’ve seen far too many miscommunications and the plays are taking far too long to get into the QB on the field.

What is it exactly that Molnar does? And how is this co-offensive coordinator relationship going?

What many have thought is that Kelly truly misses Jeff Quinn—-who was his OC and assistant coach from Grand Valley to Central Michigan and Cincinnati.

Quinn is finishing up his 2nd season at Buffalo and is 5-18 and just 3-13 in MAC play. Living in WNY I can tell you he probably isn’t crazy about staying here and won’t be coaching here much longer.

Should Kelly bring him back as his OC at Notre Dame? Kelly’s offense hasn’t seemed to be the same since they parted ways—-although there are many other factors to consider as well.

Some courses of action to possibly consider:

1. Bring back Quinn (if he’s fired at UB) and let Quinn be the full-time OC.

2. Remove Molnar’s OC tag and let Kelly be full-time OC.

3. Remove Molnar’s OC tag and let Warriner (a successful OC in the past and someone who may be poached from this staff—-might want to throw him a bone here) become the full-time OC.

How involved in the offense was Kelly at Cincy and before at his other stops? Were he and Quinn always co-OC’s? Can Kelly be a OC at Notre Dame and still be a successful gameday coach?

Does anyone think Kelly NEEDS to cede OC control and get his head out from his playsheet on gameday?

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 28, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Definitely discussion worthy.

If we see any moves on the ND Staff I’m thinking BK goes after Quinn hard.

by whiskey OFD on Nov 28, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Brady?

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Criminally Under-Rec'd

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I concur

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by averagegatsby on Nov 29, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

A change is likely in order...

but I don’t think BK can take over as OC. Quinn would be a great fit, but I don’t think they get rid of anyone to make room for him. Warriner is the most likely to get looks elsewhere on offense, Martin on defense. I still think the staff is a year away from getting poached.

by Jim Miesle on Nov 28, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

How much is this a disconnect between coaches, and how much of it is the QB on the field?

I’d like to see a bigger sample size (QB not named Rees, and not a freshman) because the QB’s he’s had, this tends to be a problem. I don’t remember this as an issue with Crist nearly as much as it has been this year.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 28, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's a little of both

Rees has always seemed way too chill (brah) out there for my tastes. I would like to see more urgency, more want to as Miles would say.

I also think we’d be better served to just go into hyper-speed mode and stop worrying about getting every single little protection right on the field. Sometimes it seems like we’re not being proactive enough on offense—-we should push it to the other team.

Is this Kelly being too much of a perfectionist? Too much of him trying to control the situation?

I’d rather take a loss one one play if it means we’re keeping the opponent on its heels, tiring them out, and having them out of position because we’re moving so fast. That’s what Oregon does, and they take their fair share of losses and busted plays.

Sometimes it’s frustrating to watch Rees take his time, then call out a protection or an audible and then….a 3-yard out pass. Yippee.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 28, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, it's probably a little of both.

but that’s sort of what I was trying to point out, that it’s not just coaching, it’s the guy on the field who has a hand in this too.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 28, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time a Heach Coach was a successfull coordinator too...

Just a question, Im sure there is a recent guy who did both successfully recently to make me look like a bonehead.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It happens, but you have to have a lights-out, soon to be HC as the other coordinator.

so that you can pretty much delegate that side of the ball and focus on your side.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 28, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It just seems a bad situation to me.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a coach--I wouldn't know.

There’s a bunch of things we do in the Army because they work—other people might not understand it, but we do. I’m not going to pretend I know the best way to call plays. I wouldn’t expect Brian Kelly to try to tell me how to direct UAV’s over Afghanistan.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Im not saying I know...

But one of the few things that I’ve really learned and embraced from college is that, there is always a better way to do something… I hate the idea of “we’ve always done it this way”

I don’t know of a better way, all I ask is that people are open to change.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 29, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That seems like a pretty spurious argument.

“I don’t know of one, but there might possibly be a better way of doing X”. It sounds like you’re looking for things to criticize, and justifying it by the possibility, which always exists, of there being something better, even if you don’t know it.

The playcalling system sounds complicated. However, I don’t coach, so I’m not in a position to say there’s a better way to do it. I can only assume that they are doing it the best way that works for THEM, because they are coaches with decades of experience and I am not. If I question that, it’s because I question their competence. If you want to question BK’s competence, that’s fine—go right ahead. But you either think he’s competent or he’s not. If you think he knows what he’s doing, then sharpshooting how he calls plays seems rather unnecessary.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

"You either think he's competent or he's not?" That seems a little too black and white.

Coaching competence isn’t the only thing involved in Kelly’s decisions and procedures and behavior as a coach – he’s a whole person with principles and intelligences and assumptions and habits, etc. He can be competent AND at times impeded in his competence by other factors – factors that don’t make him radically incompetent, but that open a little space for us to question and critique his performance.

Michael Floyd is a competent receiver (understatement), but I’ve seen him drop a well-thrown ball with my own eyes several times in the last few weeks. (BTW, I have no clue if there’s a better way to call plays or if there’s any problem at all with the way BK has them called.)

by fishoutofwater on Nov 29, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He can, but as I said, I'd tell him to take a hike if he tried to tell me

either how to run UAV surveillance or how to interpret Japanese historical documents. I’d expect him to tell me the same for telling him how to run his play calling system. If someone here has experience calling offensive plays, then it makes sense for them to say “well, that doesn’t make sense, we did it this way and it was more efficient”. I have no idea, so if it works for him, I really don’t see any reason to pick at it. There are a whole lot of other things we can question that going after the play-calling system—not even play calls, but the play calling system—seems just silly.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

This is all true. It seems like the initial question was a response to the apparent confusion on the field during the Stanford game, when there seemed to be some sort of problem with the procedure – to me, it seemed like a problem with the players initiating the called play, not with the exchange between Molnar, Kelly, and Mulvey. So I don’t think we have any reason to worry about what’s happening there, unless there’s some other indication that the procedure isn’t affective.

by fishoutofwater on Nov 29, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly--the coach isn't the only location of possible failure.

Rees has a problem getting plays called quickly. This isn’t new to the Stanford game.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait what?

All I meant was it seems like a complicated process, its not even that I don’t think it works… And I just hope that he is open to other ways of doing things.

Its just that there is pretty much always a better way to do anything and everything. The trick of it isn’t knowing that there is a better way to do something, but knowing which can be improved the most. You can focus on one thing and marginally improve it, but is it worth focusing that time into another area where there can be more improvement made for the same time.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 29, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

there also is no indication that he isn't open to doing things other ways.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 29, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

There are much bigger things out there (QB choice, etc.) that we can look at and criticize

or debate without having specific experiences. This is just something that seems based on experience that most of us here don’t have, so I think it’s kind of silly to focus on it as a major problem.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was meant more as an off the cuff comment...

than to be any sort of debate.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 29, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's how Kelly described what he and Molnar are doing with play calling:

Kelly is calling the offensive play at hand. Molnar is in the booth, one step ahead, deciding on the best possible play calls (multiple, maybe 2 or 3 options), given the possible outcomes of the current play.

The current play runs, then Molnar lets Kelly know the best options given the outcome. Kelly picks among them (or something else, if he’s got his heart set on it). Tells Mulvey and the other red hats. The red hats signal it in to the QB and the rest of the offense. The play runs, and by that point, Molnar’s given Kelly his best options for the next play and Kelly’s deciding which to go with.

(This is a summary of a description Kelly gave, I believe, during one of the Thursday night radio shows.)

by fishoutofwater on Nov 28, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Ew.

That’s not very effective. And I don’t think anyone can say otherwise.

by pburns2010 on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems like one of those situations that could work

But I can see how there’s a lot of data overload for Kelly.

You could imagine he’s thinking ahead anyway and has a handful of plays in mind, and then Molnar could come in with a handful more—-that’s a lot to sort through in about 10-15 seconds.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 28, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a bad example... but an example...

But this is similar to how the Chiefs call plays… Granted their offense sucks, but if you ask me you have too many people throwing in an opinion… And it seems to me both teams are really slow at getting plays in.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Number 3 won't work unless you fire Molnar.

You can’t demote someone and keep them on. See Brown, Corwin and Nuta, Te.

by Mouth of the South on Nov 28, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got my money on Leech going to UCLA...

I can’t back that up with any reasoning.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

It would be a smart move...

given the talent they have (with the exception of at QB of course). I think he has to be at the top of their list.

by Jim Miesle on Nov 28, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

As a resident of Kansas, I hope they go after him hard...

I doubt he goes, since Mangini was basically let go for similar reasons to Leech, even though they have a completely different AD now.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE

I’ve been praying for Leach vs. Kiffykins for weeks now.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 28, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Steve Sarkasian?

Don’t sleep on Sarkasian…

/joking

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by jkra0512 on Nov 28, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

/Pac12 defensive coordinators quit en masse.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 29, 2011 3:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think there will be a coaching position called "Defensive Coordinators" in the Pac-12

They will just be figure heads for the 11 pawns put out there on the “other side” of the ball…

Defensive Figure Head, “All right boys, don’t worry about stopping them, just slow them down and minimize their touches.”

Defensive player, “Did he just tell us to allow them to score in as few touches as possible? Welp, e’er we go!”

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by jkra0512 on Nov 29, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Aren't the Big 12 defenses worse?

It seems like all Big 12 Defenses routinely give up 40 points.

by Mouth of the South on Nov 29, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the old question:

Are Big 12 offenses that good, or are the defenses that bad?

Kind of like: Are SEC defenses that good, or are the offenses that bad?

(Obviously, it’s a little bit of both, but it’s fun to argue.)

by burger23 on Nov 29, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had time....

I think you could get some gauge of this by how the offenses/defenses play in their out of conference games.

Here’s their total defenses against non-conference foes vs. conference opponents.

Those are the numbers without regard to the level of competition. There may be some bias involved in answering that question.

How do you feel about the demise of the SEC defenses? (The premise)
The Scoring Offenses for the SEC, comparing 2011 to 2008 reveal:
- in 2008 only one team had an average scoring offense of over 33 pts per game, while in 2011 four offenses exceeded that mark.
- in 2008 the SEC had four teams who averaged less than 20 points per game, while in 2011 only two teams averaged less than that mark (Ole MIss, Kent).
-in 2008 the SEC teams averaged 25.22 pts/game while in 2011 those teams averaged 27.52 pts/gm

Have their defenses worsened that severely? Or are the offenses of the Gus Malzahns and the athletes like Cam Newtons and Trent Richardsons having that kind of impact?

by Michael Collins on Nov 29, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Edited to reflect

Ohio State’s hiring of Meyer, UCLA’s firing of Neuheisal, and Arizona State’s firing of Dennis Erickson.

by Michael Collins on Nov 28, 2011 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Worth pointing out

Frank Beamer’s record early in his career at Virginia Tech – 5-17 in his first two seasons, 17-16-1 in his next three seasons.

by Michael Collins on Nov 28, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Edited to reflect

Washington State’s firing of Paul Wulff and Massachusetts’s firing of Kevin Morris.

by Michael Collins on Nov 29, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

For the record, I have not been in contact with anyone regarding any of the potential job openings.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 30, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

KG just jumped

to the top of the Mass head coaching search.

Go, Minutemen!

by Michael Collins on Nov 30, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

You won't get it

Discrimination against Southerners. ESPN is breatking the story.

by Michael Collins on Nov 30, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN's Joe Schad has just learned

that Notre Dame is considering firing Tyrone Willingham.

by burger23 on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Oooh, rec-a-licious!

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 30, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Outside of KG and MoS

Who would your favorite HC candidates be, if you were an AD?

by Michael Collins on Nov 30, 2011 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

1. The Dread Pirate

2. Gus Malzahn
3. Kevin Sumlin
4. Dan Mullen (not entirely sold on him, but he made Miss State not awful
5. Larry Fedora

by burger23 on Nov 30, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

It would depend on which school I was at, because it's as much about fit as quality. Leach doesn't belong everywhere.

But without taking that into account:

1. Leach
2. Kirby Smart
3. Kevin Sumlin
4. Dan Mullen

I wouldn’t touch Gus Malzahn.

Of course the ND Nation selection would be:

1. Bob Stoops
2. Urban Meyer—so what if he just signed with tOSU, he can change his mind!
3. Skip Holtz
4. Randy Edsall
5. Ara Parseghian.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 30, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point on the school aspect

Leach would do best at a place where he could be himself without dealing with a lot of scrutiny (like Wazzu). Someone like Malzahn would probably do best somewhere in the South since that’s where he’s coached his entire career.

I am interested to know why you don’t like Malzahn.

By the way, did you see the guy on NDN who claimed we would be in the BCS if Weis was still the coach? That’s an… interesting… position.

by burger23 on Nov 30, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't willingly go to NDNation

so no. But…interesting.

Malzahn: He seems like a Houston Nutt waiting to happen. Just a bizarre guy—don’t like his demeanor, not someone I would want as a head guy who has to deal with boosters, media, etc. And his wife is bat-guano crazy.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 30, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

His wife is a piece of work, no doubt about that

But he’s up there with Bobby Petrino and Chip Kelly as the best offensive X’s and O’s coach out there. Eventually Auburn will get tired of giving him a raise every year and he’ll get job.

by burger23 on Nov 30, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he needs a Cam Newton.

Auburn hasn’t exactly looked great this year.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 30, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He did well at Arkansas

Granted, Auburn is 104th in total offense this year, but the offense he inherited in 2009 was pretty terrible and he turned them from pathetic into decent.

by burger23 on Nov 30, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never felt sorry for a televangelist...

But this poor guy…. Oy, I can’t imagine that he knew what he was getting himself into. Poor guy.

by Mouth of the South on Nov 30, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Since Davie is already taken...

I respectfully decline the opportunity to comment on this thread.

by Jim Miesle on Nov 30, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Behold!

1. Rob Ianello
2. Mike Haywood
3. Brian Polian
4. Charlie Weis, Jr.

All winners. All loved.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 30, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

No Corwin Brown?

Too soon? Sorry. No need to call Geoffrey. I’ll do it myself:

by Mouth of the South on Nov 30, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Leach to Wazzu.

The Pac12 needs to direct UCLA to take Kevin Sumlin, in effect banning defense forever.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 30, 2011 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Edited to

reflect Leach to WSU and inclusion of top candidates for openings.

My top HC targets for a BCS team:
1. Chris Peterson
2. Kirby Smart
3. Kevin Sumlin
4. Dan Quinn
5. Dan Mullen

by Michael Collins on Dec 1, 2011 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

Dan Quinn? Who is that?

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by Kelly's Gyros on Dec 1, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay.

I don’t like any coordinator who’s head coach is the real coordinator. That’s Will Muschamp’s defense, and they haven’t exactly been impressive this year. Don’t see why his DC would be considered for coaching jobs. Much like I never understood why anyone would hire Mike Haywood, when he didn’t call the plays except for that one horrible stretch.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Dec 1, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be skeptical of Quinn too.

However, Florida’s defense is in the top 20 in many defensive categories. It’s the other side of the ball with all the problems.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 1, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

But how can that be? They've got a schematic advantage!

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by Kelly's Gyros on Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Threw him in

as part of a Quinn-fest. You can also include Jeff Quinn and Quinn the Eskimo. We’ll see about DQ down the road. Lots of NFL experience but no HC experience like CW had.

by Michael Collins on Dec 1, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Salaries

Patterson, with his most recent contract, now makes $3 million/yr – the 10th highest paid coach. Maybe he would go to Texas, but will stand pat unless something like that opens up.

Peterson makes $1.6 million, in the same range as Neuheisel, and UCLA is interested. He may interested, especially if the Big East remains shaky or worsens, and the AQs with the BCS are done away with. The exposure in LA is attractive.

by Michael Collins on Dec 1, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

One year away

Next year’s hot coaches for vacanies?

1. Charlie Strong
2. Mike London
3. Pat Fitzgerald
4. James Franklin
5. Josh Heupel and Brent Venables
6. Anyone on lists who does not choose HC this year – Smart, Mullen, etc.

Veterans who seem to be overlooked? Will they ever take a HC job?
Bud Foster
Tom Bradley
Nick Aliotti
John Chavis
Paul Chryst
Jim McElwain
Jim Heacock

Any other names?

by Michael Collins on Dec 1, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Don't see Strong of Fitsgerald going anywhere anytime soon.

Strong is really loyal to Louisville for being the school to finally give him a shot. Fitzgerald is a NW grad who has had shots at jobs before and didn’t leave.

And Heupel? Really?

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by Kelly's Gyros on Dec 1, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

"Or" not "Of" in the title.

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by Kelly's Gyros on Dec 1, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Updated

That’s a good hire for UAB. McGee has some work to do for a team that ranked 108th in points for and 112th in points against. Thanks, burger.

by Michael Collins on Dec 3, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

No probs

UAB is actually backtracking and saying McGee has not been hired. Arkansas, meanwhile, has already wished him good luck at his new position. So who knows.

Also, rumor is Sumlin will be named A&M’s coach within 24 hours.

by burger23 on Dec 3, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If I were betting

Sumlin to A&M
Fedora to Kansas
Smart to Mississippi
Chryst to Illinois
Mullen to Penn State
Pellini to FAU

by Michael Collins on Dec 4, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

And that leaves...

who for UCLA? I would think that would be one of the most desirable jobs out there with all the talent on the roster and the recruiting pipeline.

Petersen and UCLA were talking about $3million per before he backed out (reportedly). It seems like they shot themselves in the foot by holding on to slick Rick for too long.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Bellotti would be my favorite

But stilll up in the air. Others: Both Jones or an outside candidate.

by Michael Collins on Dec 4, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Malzaln to North Carolina

by Michael Collins on Dec 4, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Multiple sources...

are reporting that Mack Brown will be forced out at Texas.

More to come

by Jim Miesle on Dec 4, 2011 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

I would agree his status is very tenuous

Two losing seasons in a row – the first time since the 30s – and with two new coordinators of his choosing and always stacked with top ranked recruits.

Diaz, Harsin and Applewhite may be available for HC positions. Hold on to your Stetsons!

by Michael Collins on Dec 4, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Texas, no question

Who wants to play in the SEC? Big 12 has been big offense for many years.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 4, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Edited to reflect

Firings of Pat Hill and Steve Fairchild (CSU), hirings of Hugh Freeze and Garrick McGee and revisions of BCS teams candidates.

by Michael Collins on Dec 5, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

The more I read about UCLA, the worse I feel for them

They’re going to end up with someone really bad, like Tom Cable or DeWayne Walker. There’s no reason UCLA shouldn’t win 9-10 games a year with the advantages they have, and there are plenty of good candidates out there. I really wish they were good so that someone in the PAC-12 South can challenge USC.

by burger23 on Dec 5, 2011 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

I totally agree.

They really don’t even need to try with recruiting and still bring in a ton of talent. If they had a decent coach, they would be 8+ wins every year. It is simply a situation that I don’t understand.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Buyouts

Turner Gill – $6 million over three years
Houston Nutt – $6 million over five years
Mike Sherman – $5.8 million – all private money
Ron Zook – $5.8 million – all private money
Larry Porter – $2.26 million (minus any future salaries) over three years
Mike Stoops – $1.4 million
Rob Ianello – $900k
Dennis Erickson – $750k
Mike Locksley – $750k – all private money
Paul Wulff – $600k
Steve Fairchild – $350k – all private money
Rick Neuheisel – $250k

by Michael Collins on Dec 6, 2011 2:08 AM EST reply actions  

Houston Nutt

Four years ago, Houston Nutt was forced out at Arkansas and his agent negotiated a $3.5 million buyout for him to walk away. Hours after his dismissal, Ole Miss announced his signing for $2.5 million annually. Four years and $10 million in salary later, Nutt gets a buyout from Mississippi of $6 million. That’s $19.5 million, with $16 million paid for by Mississippi, the poorest state in the US, with a per capita income of $15,853.

by Michael Collins on Dec 6, 2011 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Wonder what

the per capita income drops to if he moves out of Mississippi?

by Michael Collins on Dec 6, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The buyouts are just insane.

Why do these a-holes get so much money for sucking? Isn’t it enough that they made $3-5 Million a year for fielding awful teams? The salaries are one thing, because the football programs typically bring in money—at least in the SEC. But how have these outrageous buyouts become the norm?

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Four of the Pac 12 teams will have new coaches next year

Good article on athletic costs/deficits prior to the new media deals

A sluggish economy has left athletic departments across the Pac-12 scrambling to cover costs, and some barely afloat, according to records acquired by The Times.

Cash-strapped programs at California, Arizona State and Oregon State needed “allocated revenues” to balance their budgets last year. That meant taking $10 million or more from university coffers, student fees and state funds.
The Pac-12 reflects a national trend, with only 22 of the 120 largest NCAA athletic departments showing a profit in the 2010 fiscal year. These numbers explode the myth that big-time college sports generate big profits.

Article on impact of $3 billion deals, providing $20 million per school, including $16 million in TV only. It focuses on Washington State, who fired Paul Wulff, who made $600K a year, and hired Mike Leach, who will make $2.5 million a year.

And the new revenue-sharing model puts Washington State, which is in remote eastern Washington, on a more even playing field with Pac-12 programs like Stanford, Southern California and Oregon.
Washington’s State’s television revenue in 2012 will go from about $4 million to more than $16 million thanks to the $3 billion deal signed by Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott.

So, cash-strapped programs at Washington State can afford Mike Leach, Arizona can afford Rich Rodriguez, and Arizona State and UCLA can court big name, big contract coaches and the staffs that come with them.

by Michael Collins on Dec 7, 2011 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

So what's the thesis of this comment?

College athletics are not moneymakers, by and large, with football an exception. Football coaches’ salaries are therefore justified. Just want to clarify.

by Mouth of the South on Dec 7, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Until the recent $3 billion deals with Fox and ESPN

four Pac 12 schools were profitable in football – USC, Stanford, Oregon and Washington. All state-supported schools have been hit with severe legislative cutbacks and were looking at ways of trimming their athletic budgets with football being the prime target.

The $12 million increase in media money lets the schools pay off debt, plan for stadium expansion (Utah), expand facilities, hire better football coaches or increase current coaches salaries to keep them, and fund other athletic programs that were cut or in danger of being cut.

In the larger picture, if you projected a continuing crunch on athletics in the Pac 12, there’s no way that those schools could have kept up with the SECs and the Big Ten teams overall. One article quoting a prior WSU coach said Leach’s contract itself was the equivalent of the prior ten years of contracts for the whole coaching staffs.

by Michael Collins on Dec 7, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Edited for

hiring of Fedora at North Carolina, new opening at S. Miss, revisions of candidates for some BCS schools.

by Michael Collins on Dec 7, 2011 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

It appears that Molnar will be named UMass HC by the end of the week

This leaves the ND staff with the need for a QB coach. I think it is likely that BK would promote Warriner to OC, a position he held at Kansas.

by Jim Miesle on Dec 7, 2011 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

Jeff Quinn

was BK’s OC for four years at Central Michigan and at Cincy, and has completed his second year as HC at Buffalo. He would be an alternative to Warriner, who has been great.

by Michael Collins on Dec 7, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Quinn would be ideal

But he’s not going to leave a HC gig to be OC somewhere.

by burger23 on Dec 7, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Notre Dame connections to coaching fires, hires and candidates

Rob Ianello – fired at Akron
Bob Davie – hired at New Mexico
Charlie Molnar – hired at UMass
Charlie Weis – candidate at Kansas
Tony Alford – candidate at Colorado State
Tom Clements – candidate at Penn State
OFD candidates at Hawaii and Southern Miss

by Michael Collins on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

Best get out in front of that...

I am already looking at beach-front homes to run your recruiting…

by Jim Miesle on Dec 14, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Edited for

hires of Carl Pelini and Charlie Molnar, Fresno State’s firing of Pat Hill, and updated lists of candidates for BCS programs

by Michael Collins on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 AM EST reply actions  

Edited to reflect

Weis to KU and Justin Fuente hired by Memphis and revision of candidates for non-BCS schools.

by Michael Collins on Dec 9, 2011 2:19 AM EST reply actions  

Justin Fuente? Never heard of him.

Seems like it might be a solid hire though. TCU has always had a solid offense and a coach with Texas connections is always useful.

by burger23 on Dec 9, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Edited to reflect

Tim Beckman to Illinois and links to biography links to most hired coaches

by Michael Collins on Dec 10, 2011 2:08 AM EST reply actions  

I'm sorry to see Beckman leave Toledo

But I’m happy for him and wish him luck in his new job.

Such is life in the MAC.

by burger23 on Dec 10, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope to see

the ex-Tulane coach, Bob Toledo, apply for the Toledo job.

Wonder if Jack Snow would follow Hugh Freeze at Arkansas State?

Or if Bo Pelini would consider coaching the Hawaii Rainbows?

As for the MAC, eight of its twelve coaches have been replaced in the last three years, counting this year.

by Michael Collins on Dec 10, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That's how things are in a midmajor

There’s been some very good coaches making their way through the conference the last few years – Beckman, Hoke, Golden, Haywood, Kelly, Butch Jones, Kill, Ianello… Going farther back, you also have Meyer and Saban.

by burger23 on Dec 12, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sources are saying Sumlin to A&M

And Jim Mora, Jr. to UCLA.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 10, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks, Eric

Just saw those reports. Revisions made with bios and Hires Breakdowns of coaches.

I think both are good hires for each university. A&M probably opened their wallets to get Sumlin. Only Penn State and Arizona State left. ASU had some interest in Sumlin, but they weren’t a strong contender.

Would’t it be something if Penn State hired Tom Clements? ASU may go the coordinator route with Smart, Chryst and Helfrich strong choices.

by Michael Collins on Dec 10, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Edited for

Jim McElwain to Colorado State, revisions of candidates for BCS and non-BCS schools.

by Michael Collins on Dec 13, 2011 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

Toledo has hired Mark Campbell

A good choice imo. Beckman was a defensive guy, so the offense was probably mostly Campbell’s. Hopefully the Rockets won’t miss a beat and can maybe shore up the defense a bit. And hopefully recruiting won’t suffer – Toledo has been out-recruitng the rest of the MAC since Beckman took over.

by burger23 on Dec 13, 2011 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

Good choice

I agree with their (and your) reasoning.

Not sure where ASU and Penn State should go. Similarly, Southern Miss and Houston are either in-house hires or someone regionally that won’t upset what they have been doing.

Akron now has missed on Luke Fickell and Mark Campbell. Will Kirby Smart and Gus Malzahn wait another year?

by Michael Collins on Dec 13, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Reports are Gus Malzahn will take the Arkansas State job

That’s quite a hire for the Red Wolves – Malzahn is an Arkansas guy so it’s not a huge surprise, but he’s also one of the most highly sought-after assistants in the country.

by burger23 on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

I am very surprised he took that job

Then again, not a lot of pressure. It won’t be that difficult to win, and eventually a bigger program will come calling.

He has to prove he can be a successful head coach though.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 14, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally Agree

Good hire for Arkansas State. Above I was wondering if Malzahn and Smart were going to be left out this year.

Looking at the Hires Breakdown this year, programs are preferring HCs or former HCs for BCS positions and Coordinators for the non-BCS schools. Malzahn only had Arkansas State and Southern Miss left as options. Maybe he felt S.Miss was going another way. Arkansas State is a winning program and in his comfort zone for recruiting. He can prove himself there as a HC and take a BCS job in a short time like Freeze. If Auburn is middle of the pack next year in the SEC West, will he be as desirable?

Freeze did have the lowest salary there in the FBS this year. Last year Malzahn turned down the Vandy HC positon for a substantial raise.

by Michael Collins on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Malzahn's stock took a big hit when the Auburn offense cratered this year

I was reading an article at Track ‘Em Tigers and they were speculating that this was basically Malzahn’s one shot to get a head coaching job. He gambled when he decided to stay at Auburn this year and came up short when his offense tanked. Apparently prospects aren’t too bright for next season either and the thought at TET was that if AU had a repeat performance on offense next year, it may take several years for Malzahn to rebuild his reputation. Now, he can try his hand as a head coach at the college level and use Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a bigger job in the future.

by burger23 on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Top Coordinators interested in HC jobs

Who are yours?

Kirby Smart
Paul Chryst
Pat Narduzzi
Manny Diaz
?Brian Harsin
Mark Stoops
Justin Wilcox
Ellis Johnson

by Michael Collins on Dec 14, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

It will be interesting to see how that plays out at Texas in the next 1-2 years.

They should be much better next season but that will set Harsin and Diaz both up to jump ship. That will be an interesting program to keep an eye on in 12’.

by whiskey OFD on Dec 14, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I might include

Brent Venables
Jim Heacock
Nick Aliotti

Their names seem to pop up from time-to-time during HC searches. I don’t know if they’re looking for jobs, though (well, Heacock is, I guess).

I’m also a little surprised no has tried to pry John Chavis from LSU.

by burger23 on Dec 14, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Bud Foster

has also looked into some HC jobs over the years and nobody ever seems to be interested in him. He could be a little bit of a liability off the field and I think that tends to keep him in Blacksburg. They take care of him there, small town style.

by whiskey OFD on Dec 14, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

his name came up as a candidate for the Pitt, W.Va, and Vandy jobs as well as discussions on who would take over from Paterno last year.

He does have an annuity in his pocket from Va Tech that will pay him $800k if he is VaTech’s DC in 2014. So, only a HC position at a BCS school could compensate him for a move from Blacksburg.

Blacksburg to Pittsburgh?

by Michael Collins on Dec 15, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Poor Pitt

It will be interesting to see what they do now.

Is ASU a better job? Graham must like the warm weather.

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 14, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

At this point

I think their best option is to promote Calvin McGee to HC and try to establish some kind of continuity within the program. From what I’ve heard, Pitt has a committment from a pretty good QB that would fit in their spread system. Going through another transition with a whole new staff two years in a row would be disastrous.

by burger23 on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

(Loyalty is) Not really an option

Magee left to join Rodriguez in Arizona with two other assistants who had also worked with RR. Does Tom Bradley have an opportunity with Pitt?

Pitt’s statement was from their Executive Vice Chairman and General Counsel, Jerry Cochran: "Obviously this is not the way we would have expected Mr. Graham to handle any possible departure. Beyond normal expectations with respect to professional conduct, he has failed to comply with the terms of his contract." Sounds like a repeat of RR’s departure for West Virginia, unless Graham had no buyout clause.

Wonder where the Sun Devils made contact and discussed this with Graham? Hopefully no place on Pitt’s dime.

Who would be your candidates for the team that will be bolting the Big East to the ACC?

by Michael Collins on Dec 14, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Andrew Luck?

I thought he was going to declare for the draft…

by Irishane on Dec 15, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

In addition to DM

How about Tom Bradley, Frank Cignetti, Paul Rhodes and Sal Sunseri (Tino’s dad)?

Cignetti is from Pitts. Bradley could come over from Penn State and was interviewed prior to Haywood’s hire. Rhodes was DC at Pitt. Sunseri was an AA LB at Pitt and s now LB coach at Alabama. Those are just the ones with Pitt/PA connections.

by Michael Collins on Dec 15, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't aware McGee jumped ship

Not that surprising I guess. He worked with RichRod for a long time. Pitt’s screwed, I guess. Unless they want to take a chance on Todd Dodge?

by burger23 on Dec 15, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Having been to Pittsburgh recently, I will say that it is a pretty nice town.

The weather is apparently pretty dreary year round, and maybe it’s because I was expecting an absolute hole, but Pittsburgh is pretty damn nice.

Of course, Arizona is sunny and warm year round, and there’s lot of gun-related activities, so there’s that.

by Mouth of the South on Dec 14, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been to both places.

I’ll take Phoenix! But I’m partial to the Southwest.

by whiskey OFD on Dec 14, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Kiffy-kins set a bad precedent after leaving Tennessee after only one year.

The schools do give the coaches a very short leash, but the coaches are more than protected by the ridiculous buyouts that they get. It really is sh!tty to leave a school after one year.

by Mouth of the South on Dec 14, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't see how this is an upgrade for Graham from a coaching standpoint.

Arizona isn’t exactly fertile ground for recruiting football and the Arizona & Arizona State fan bases aren’t exactly large or rabid. I have always considered ASU a baseball school.

by whiskey OFD on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Some scenarios that could have greased the wheels for his decision:

1. He did not get along with the A.D.
2. As a Texan, he and his family did not like the weather and culture in Pitts.- “in the best interests of my family”
3. He did not want to try to recruit a coaching staff again (but he’ll have to in ASU)
4. ASU dumped their media money on him with promises to upgrade everything and give him carte blanche for hiring assistants.
5. He had difficulty connecting with players, hs.coaches and recruits in Pennsylvania.

by Michael Collins on Dec 15, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Edited for

Malzahn to Arkansas State (Pittsburgh on the other line) and Todd Graham to ASU with Pitt opening up.

by Michael Collins on Dec 15, 2011 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

Edited for

Tim DeRuyter to Fresno State and all candidates for BCS and non-BCS positions.

Hawaii has 42 applicants.

by Michael Collins on Dec 16, 2011 1:07 AM EST reply actions  

Already found another job

Luke Fickell – Ohio State DC
Everette Winthers – Ohio State Defensive coach
Mike Locksley – Maryland OC
Rob Ianello – Kansas Univ. Offensive coach
Turner Gill – Liberty University HC

Interviews
Mike Sherman – Jacksonville Jags
Mike Stoops – Nebraska

by Michael Collins on Dec 16, 2011 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

Others

John Latina – former ND OL coach and OC at Akron will be the next OL coach at Duke
Al Groh – is being strongly considered by Charlie Weis for his DC
Kirk Ferentz – may be the leading candidate for the KC Chiefs HC position

by Michael Collins on Dec 16, 2011 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

My thoughts:

1. Poor Duke
2. Really? That’s a Tenuta-level bad hire.
3. Really?? I can’t see him leaving Iowa now. But maybe with Norm Parker’s retirement he decided he’d rather try a new job than try to break in new staff members at Iowa.

by burger23 on Dec 16, 2011 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Al Groh is like what John Tenuta was in 2009

Everyone knew Tenuta’s name, but he wasn’t actually a good coach. Groh was mediocre-to-bad at Virginia and the GT defense has been pretty bad in his two season. This would be a “name” hire, not a good hire.

What is it with Chuck and Georgia Tech DCs? You’d think he’d learn after last time…

by burger23 on Dec 16, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Edited for

some candidates dropping out and for Interviews for Penn State, Pitt, Hawaii and S. Miss. Any other interviews?

by Michael Collins on Dec 18, 2011 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Frank Cignetti might be a good pick for Pitt

If I remember right, he was OC under Wannstedt. Pitt was only spread for one year, so the transition back to pro-style wouldn’t be too rough.

by burger23 on Dec 18, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Contract Extensions during the Carousel

Art Briles, Houston – doubled his salary to $2.5 million (Ariz State, KU jobs)
James Franklin, Vanderbilt – received “substantial compensation” increase plus commitment to upgrade stadium and practice facilities (Penn St, Pitt)
Al Golden, Miami – extended for four years (UCLA, Penn St)
Dan Mullen, Miss St – signed extension. Didn’t he get an extension last year? (Penn St)
Paul Rhodes, Iowa State – signed 10 yr extension
Kyle Whittingham, Utah – signs extension raising his salary to $2 million (Ariz St, Penn St)
Butch Jones, Cincy – got a six year extension (Ill, NC, UCLA)
Dave Christensen, Wyoming – one year extension (Ill, Ks, UCLA)
Terry Bowden, N. Ala – one year extension (Memphis)

Extensions in process
Mark Richt, Georgia (Penn St)
Mike London, Virginia (Penn St, UCLA)

All express they are never happier than where they are.

by Michael Collins on Dec 19, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Edited to reflect

Note that almost 71% of FBS schools have changed HCs (85 of 120) in the last four years.

by Michael Collins on Dec 20, 2011 1:43 AM EST reply actions  

That's pretty amazing

But the shelf life for coaches is pretty short. Successful coaches at smaller programs get poached and struggling schools cut loose guys earlier and earlier. The only coaches with staying power are the ones who achieve that rare combination of coaching at a “destination job” while succeeding year-in and year-out. Also, Kirk Ferentz.

by burger23 on Dec 20, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at it another way

Seven of the eighteen coaches (38.89%) who signed five years ago are at those same schools.

They are: Petrino (Ark), Briles (Baylor), Cutcliffe (Duke), Johnson (Ga Tech), Niumatalolo (Navy), Pelini (Nebr), June Jones (SMU). None are at their original salaries. All seven have signed contract extensions.

Despite those, Cutcliffe is a candidate for Penn St and Jones almost signed with Arizona State. Briles’s extension came this year after Arizona State and KU were interested in him – and almost taking Houston to a BCS bowl.

by Michael Collins on Dec 20, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Ellis Johnson will be the next coach at Southern Miss

I know nothing about him, other than that Spencer Hall is pretty high on him. South Craolina’s defense was pretty good this year so I’m guessing he knows what he’s doing.

by burger23 on Dec 20, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ahead of the curve, burger

Multiple reports now have Ellis Johnson accepting the position.

Also, Hawaii has reportedly offered Norm Chow the position, but nothing has been signed.

Paul Winters, the leading candidate for the Akron job, got a contract extension from Wayne State.

Everette Winthers is reportedly Houston’s leading candidate.

by Michael Collins on Dec 20, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy Norm Chow finally got a head coaching job

He should fit in well at Hawaii, too. He ran that pistol offense at UCLA, but he’s a pass-happy WCO guy at heart. It’s not the run and shoot, but it should work at Hawaii. Who knows how long he’ll stay, though. His age is getting up there.

Also, I found out how to apply for the Akron coaching job and I seriously considered doing it as a joke (how many people can say they got rejected from a position as a FBS head coach?) but decided my real employer may not think it’s so funny if they ever found out.

by burger23 on Dec 21, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, interesting on the Winthers news

considering he just agreed to be OSU’s DC. I wonder how Urban feels about that.

by burger23 on Dec 21, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

And Fickell interviewed for the Pitt job

I thought Fickell was going to be OSU’s DC, but I guess they were going to be co-DCs.

We’ll see where both these coaches end up. The Carousel is in warp drive.

by Michael Collins on Dec 21, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Then there were three

Winthers introduced as Ohio State co-DC. Fickell fades in Pitt candidacy. Paul Chryst is now the favorite. Regardless, the Pitt coaching search is coming to an end.

Penn State may well hire an HC at another school, creating another opening.

Edited for Chow to Hawaii, Tony Levine to Houston and for candidates for final three positions.

by Michael Collins on Dec 21, 2011 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

When Bowden signed his contract extension on Dec 7th this year

he said: “I am excited about my contract extension with UNA. The future of our athletic program here at UNA is very bright. I feel very blessed to have the opportunity to coach such an outstanding group of young men, and I look forward to continuing to build on the success that we’ve had here throughout my first three seasons.”

In accepting the Akron position, Bowden said: "I’m so excited to be a Zip. With the great resources and the commitment to winning by the administration and community, it’s just a matter of time until we build a championship program."

This is an excitable guy. Zip A Dee Doo Dah.

by Michael Collins on Dec 22, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Chryst to Pittsburgh

No Dan Marino this time…

Sky rockets in flight.

by Eric Murtaugh on Dec 22, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

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