Boston College Preview: Irish Seek 3rd Straight Holy War over Struggling Eagles
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 11:00 AM EST
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The Holy War.
The Vatican Bowl.
The modern rivalry that many Notre Dame fans and alumni don't want to call a rivalry.
But yet---it has not one, but two rivalry trophies!
Subway Domer must be going crazy this week.
This Saturday the Fighting Irish welcome Boston College to South Bend for the last home game of the season. Yes, it is Senior Day for Notre Dame and fans will be saying goodbye to a class of players that have fought through some tough times and slowly re-built this program.
They will get the chance to end their careers inside Rock's House on a happy note with a matchup against one of the worst Boston College teams in recent memory.
This is the One Foot Down preview of the 21st edition of Notre Dame-Boston College.
How Has Boston College Been Doing This Year?
It was a very rough start to the season for the Eagles, but they have been playing a little better as of late.
Boston College opened the season at home and lost to Northwestern (playing without Dan Persa) despite outgaining the Wildcats by 55 yards.
BC then went on the road and were clobbered by Central Florida, losing 30-3 and being outgained by 281 yards on just 141 total yards by the Eagles.
After leading 19-7 in the third quarter, Boston College let Duke score twice to finish the game, ultimately falling to the Blue Devlis 20-19, while being outgained by 137 yards. They would pick up their first win of the season with a 45-17 victory of UMass the next week.
At 1-3, the Eagles would go on to lose three straight games in conference to Wake Forest 27-19 (-56 total yards), Clemson 36-14 (-242 yards), and Virginia Tech 30-14 (-210 yards).
Since starting 0-4 in ACC play, Boston College has picked up wins over Maryland 28-17 (+28 yards) and NC State 14-10 (-77 yards), but sandwiched those victories between a 38-7 loss to Florida State (-100 yards).
The Eagles come into this game at 3-7---their most losses in a season already since three straight 7-loss seasons from 1996 to 1998.
Notre Dame Defense vs. Boston College Offense
BC has been ravaged by injuries and transfers and is currently fielding an incredibly young and inexperienced team. In total, the Eagles will be starting 10 underclassmen against the Irish---including 4 true freshmen on defense alone.
Up front on the offensive line there is one fifth year starter, a redshirt senior, true junior, redshirt junior and redshirt freshman. There's a decent amount of experience here but nothing overwhelming.
Redshirt senior Chris Pantale returns at tight end after having a pretty good 2010 season, but his numbers have dipped quite a bit this year with the struggles of the Eagle passing game (12 receptions, 106 yards, 1 TD).
It's been that kind of year for Frank Spaziani and the BC Eagles.
Boston College's receivers are pretty solid with sophomore Bobby Swigert (35 receptions, 356 yards, 2 TD) leading the way and Duval Kamara clone in redshirt senior Colin Larmond, Jr. playing well as a deep threat (31 receptions, 500 yards, 3 TD) after missing last year with injury. Smaller sophomore Alex Amidon has chipped in 18 catches, 199 yards, and a touchdown as well.
BC all-time leading rusher Montel Harris went down with another season ending injury about five weeks ago and had already missed most of 2011 anyway. Redshirt junior Rolandan Finch (577 yards, 4.5 average, 3 TD) and sophomore Andre Williams (466 yards, 4.3 average, 4 TD) have picked up the slack with decent production.
After taking the bulk of the snaps last year as a true freshman, Chase Rettig has locked down the quarterback position and comes into Saturday's game with 1,588 yards on 53% completions and 9 touchdowns to 9 interceptions.
| OFFENSE RANKINGS | Boston College | Notre Dame |
| Scoring | 113 | 28 |
| Rushing | 81 | 42 |
| Passing | 104 | 37 |
| Total | 111 | 33 |
| S&P | 102 | 9 |
| FEI | 94 | 14 |
| F/+ | 90 | 15 |
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Notre Dame has a major advantage on defense facing this Boston College offense.
The Eagles are more experienced this year at quarterback and receiver, but the line has regressed rather significantly, and the running backs are no better.
I wouldn't expect a rushing performance as bad as last year against the Irish (5 yards on 23 carries), but it will be very difficult to expect Boston College to average much over 3 yards per carry---if they can even get that.
The Eagles are currently ranked 88th nationally with a 3.7 yards per carry average and that is with a 372 yard outburst (27.8% of all rushing yards this season) against Maryland a few weeks ago. Take that anomaly out and BC has averaged 3.22 yards per rush---and in every game except two (Wake Forest & Maryland) the Eagles have averaged under 4.0 YPC.
The passing game has been just as dreadful being currently ranked 105th in completion percentage, 104th in yard per attempt, and 107th in passer rating.
Rettig is someone who could grow into a strong quarterbacks some day, but he is wildly inaccurate at times and usually folds under the pressure when defenders get in his face.
This should be a game where Notre Dame's 1st team defense does not give up more than 10 points.
Notre Dame Offense vs. Boston College Defense
As previously stated, the Eagles are beat-up and very inexperienced on defense.
Redshirt senior Max Holloway (36 tackles, 6 for loss, 2 sacks) and redshirt junior Kasim Edebali (23 tackles) offer some veteran leadership at defensive end, but BC is young in the middle with redshirt freshman Dominic Appiah (6.5 for loss) and true freshman Max Ricci at tackle.
At linebacker everyone knows junior All-American Luke Kuechly, who has already registered an absurd 168 tackles on the season. He's flanked on the outside by sophomore Steele Divitto (58 tackles, 2 sacks) and true freshman Sean Duggan (35 tackles, 3 for loss).
The secondary sees senior Donnie Fletcher (27 tackles, 1 INT) and true freshman Manny Asprilla (17 tackles, 1.5 for loss) at corner, while the safeties are redshirt senior Hampton Hughes (32 tackles) and true freshman Spenser Rositano (33 tackles).
| DEFENSE RANKINGS | Boston College | Notre Dame |
| Scoring | 56 | 27 |
| Rushing | 62 | 58 |
| Passing | 84 | 33 |
| Total | 69 | 36 |
| S&P | 62 | 15 |
| FEI | 55 | 15 |
| F/+ | 59 | 16 |
Straight across the board, Boston College has what amounts to a very average defense---but also a defense that might be a little better than the stats show because the Eagle offense hasn't been helping matters this season.
BC is 102nd nationally giving up 63.9% completions to opponents, but they are 63rd giving up 7.1 yards per attempt, and 53rd with a 125.5 passer rating for opponents.
Kuechly: "I've got a fever, and the only prescription...is more tackles."
Last year Notre Dame came out firing on all cylinders against Boston College and looked very comfortable on offense, until hitting a dry spell later in the game and going conservative nursing a lead.
This year, the Eagle defense is not as good and that should mean a very productive day for the Irish offense. In 2010, BC gave up 400+ yards only twice all season---but they have done so 5 times already in 2011.
Boston College is also giving up a rather significant 1.15 yards per play more than last year, while Notre Dame is averaging 0.82 more yards per play (6.32 per play) than last year---good for 22nd nationally.
Don't expect offensive fireworks, but a 450+ total-yard output and 40-point day are within reach in this matchup.
Prediction
Last sesaon Notre Dame won this matchup on the road by 18 points and the Fighting Irish have improved this year while Boston College has regressed. This is possibly the most well-rounded and explosive Notre Dame team in quite some time, while the opposite is true for the Eagles.
You see where this is going.
We're talking about a team that gained 3 total yards in the second half last weekend. Okay, to be fair they had a couple kneel downs, so they gained 6 yards---but this was against NC State.
There are numerous bright and eyeball piercing neon signs pointing to a big Notre Dame victory this Saturday, and if the Irish continue utilizing the hyper-speed offense this game could get really ugly.
However, I also like to spread caution and the fact that Boston College's defense might prove just a little bit more difficult than the experts think.
So while this game should never be in doubt, I'd expect many backups to get a shot on the field during Senior Day and the dreaded back door cover to be a distinct possibility.
The starters will play well and a big lead will be in effect into the fourth quarter as the Irish take the third straight game in this series.
Notre Dame 42
Boston College 19
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My feeling on this series, summed up in 1 sentence
Wake me when ND beats them in a game that actually means something….Until then, they are just another team…
Don’t give me any of the “Fredo” crap. When the two biggest losses in ND history in the last 20 years are against the same team, I have every right to consider them a rival & hate them.
The fact they are in the ACC & that makes the ACC a desired destination for ND makes me die a little inside…
May I also present that a rivalry often has a trophy attached to it...
I give you The Ireland Trophy and the Frank Leahy Memorial Bowl….
The Ireland Trophy, created by the University of Notre Dame’s Student Government in 1995, is presented annually “as a token of goodwill, camaraderie and the friendly rivalry” to the winner of the Notre Dame-Boston College football game.
But, nahhh it’s not a rivalry because every game has a trophy of pride attached to it, right BC fans? Maydog, I agree with you and you have every right to consider BC a rival, despite those who wish to downplay it. The series is 11-9 in favor of ND.
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
I like to call it a rivalry
Mainly because the NDN crowd is so much in the corner of “this isn’t a rivalry.”
On principle along I think I have to sway to the other side.
I also hate the “We only have one rival” crowd too.
It’s okay to have multiple rivals, especially as an independent, and have varying degrees of rival-ness from each of the opponents.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
alone* not along
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by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
It's a rivalry
The problem is that ND has 7 or 8 teams that are habitual “rivals”. We have traveling trophy games with half of our schedule. When every week is a “rival” the idea of “rival” gets a bit watered down.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
BC is definitely a rival, but I think of them as a "second tier" rival
The first tier is USC and Michigan, obviously. The second tier is MSU and BC. After that it’s Stanford, Purdue, and maybe Navy.
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Yep.
though I would disagree with your tiers. But that’s a function of when you become a fan/go to school, I’ve found. It wasn’t until we were regularly sodomized by Pete Carroll that I really cared about USC. But that’s because until my junior year, we had beaten them 11 times in a row (with 1 tie thrown in there somewhere). I hate Michigan MUCH more than I hate USC.
I’d go Tier 1: USC and Michigan. Tier 2: Navy (historical reasons), MSU. Tier 3: Purdue, Pitt, BC, Stanford. Tier 4: Air Force, Army. Nothing against the 3 & 4 teams, but they either have been one-sided (Purdue), recent developments (BC, Stanford—who we didn’t play until Lou’s time), or lacking in meaning nationally (both Pitt and us have sucked), or not regular for a long long time (Army, Air Force).
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone written a book specifically on Notre Dame's rivals?
There’s really nothing like it in sports.
We’ve played Purdue 80 times—-and they are a tier 3 rival for most people.
But then we’ve played Northwestern and Georgia Tech more times than Michigan.
I know it goes beyond mere games played, but there’s just so much richness to Notre Dame’s rivalries.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
And it's all subjective.
I remember older generations being all excited for USC like it was the biggest game ever, and the general feeling the students had when I was there was “meh…we should beat them again, since we have the last 10 years in a row”.
Some people will base it on feel, some will base it on # of times played, some…who knows? But I can see why some elements of the fan base don’t want to consider BC a rival, because it’s hard to have 8 rivals per season.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
If memory serves, Purdue has beaten us more than any other team.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 17, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
USC- 35 losses
MSU- 27
Purdue- 25
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by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
You and your statistics.
Damn science. The Vatican was right to excommunicate Galileo.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 17, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
You were close though
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by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Good prediction, E.
BC has taken a step back this year and ND should have their way with them. I think ND will score in the high 30’s to mid 40’s.
Over/Under on Kuechly making 15 tackles…
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
Tough call there...
I think we’ll do a good job with our linemen getting to the second level and blocking him on running plays. But I bet he gets close to 10 tackles on our short passing game alone.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
We'll probably run the ball quite a bit, which should give him plenty of opportunities to make a lot of tackles
Since he’s averaging almost 17 a game, I’ll take the over.
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Yeah right. We will play keep away. It will be like fighting your little brother. Put your hand on his head and let him swing away.
If Keuchly’s in the box, we throw it. If he’s on the perimeter, we run away from him. 5 tackles, at most.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 17, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
This game will be very telling to me.
We’ve been on a pattern of good week, not so good week. Michigan State ↑, Pitt ↓, Purdue ↑, Air Force ↑ (c-c-c-c-ombo breaker!), USC ↓, Navy ↑, Wake Forest ↓ (better team than most people think, though), Maryland ↑. If we can play up to where we should, put them away early, and win big, then we’ll have taken another step to putting bad teams away like we should. If we let BC hang around and win by 10 or under, then we’re still not showing any consistency.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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lmao
(c-c-c-c-ombo breaker!)
I was thinking the same thing and then I read that! Lost my shizz…
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
Anyone going to the game?
I’ll be there. I’ll be the one wearing the Notre Dame shirt. Be sure to say hi.
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Burger? Is this you? H-E-L-L-O-O-O
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was going to post the picture of the blond ND girl they kept showing in the stands from last year's Michigan game
but it had the score on the screen capture, and that made me cry.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone know why this game is at 4, not 3:30?
Odd time scheduling is odd.
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President's Cup coverage goes until 4 o'clock.
Golf——in November!
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by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
But....Tiger sucks.
So why would you base programming decisions on golf?
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Not a rivalry, but a decent "retro" series
The modern rivalry that many Notre Dame fans and alumni don’t want to call a rivalry.
Playing a team from Indiana — meh — is not going to do much for recruiting….I don’t think we have any players from that State or from Chicago, but the TV coverage is a plus.
All-in-all, it is a nice series of games the schools have played, but nobody at BC (or ND) is wedded to the idea that it must continue or thinks of it as a rivalry game. It is kind of a game you talk to your mother or granny or some old folks about - BC Fan: “Granny, BC plays ND” — Granny “Yes, how nice. Father O’Leary’s father went there in the 1940s. I always luved Knute Rocke in the old movies, and Arrow Parseghian was as straight as one, but I can’t stand that very rude ND coach on ESPN who always has a mouth full of saliva when he talks. Those ND boys are always so clean cut and respectful. Many become priests you know.”
As for the modern series: the only thing i think about is Jimmy Clausen. He is ND and it ain’t pretty. Just think about Jimmy Clausen vs Matt Ryan. Cocky vs Wholesome; overrated vs underrated. So the modern series is just ok.
When was Matty Ice ever underrated?
This is probably a ridiculous argument not worth getting into, but come on bro. He was drafted 3rd OVERALL. Clausen went in the second round. I think Matty already won that one.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 17, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think anyone here is going to argue Jimmy's the greatest QB ever or anything.
Though I do wonder how things would have turned out last year had he stayed, or how he would have looked had he had a decent offensive line and defense.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
And running backs.
And…pretty much everything but guys catching the ball. He can’t complain about that, with Floyd, Rudolph, and WR Emeritus Golden Tate #23.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
they did argue he was king when he was at ND.
it was this ’you just wait and see" attitude
that and the fat bastard.
Define "They"
You’re talking to a bunch of people who lived through the Weis years, some of us (not me) were students at that time. Just because some people in our fan base (see: NDNation) are lunatics doesn’t mean all or even the majority of us are. When the rest of the team/coaching staff played well, Jimmy played well. When they didn’t, he didn’t. He came in with a lot of hype as the #1 recruit—so of course there was always the hope that when the rest of the team “caught up”, he’d reach greatness. The team never “caught up”, and we’ll never know what could have been for Jimmy had they done so, or if that was even the problem.
If you let go of this monolithic “they” you see ND fans as, you’ll probably find that a lot of us had high hopes for Jimmy, were disappointed they were never realized, and think that had circumstances been different, Jimmy could have been great. No one is going to argue that he was, though. And I wouldn’t go back to that in a second—for all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Tommy Rees (who, most ND fans will even ignore, was named Independent offensive player of the week in a game for which most observers EVEN ON THIS SITE gave him subpar grades), I’d take him and the elevated talent level around him than a Jimmy Clausen with all the individual tools but a crappy attitude and uncoached teammates.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I give up.
You troll, get called out for it, and make a lame attempt to respond to me in Japanese, which I respond to, and you make no attempt to answer, except with a very lame masturbation joke, which if I had thinner skin I would find offensive, completely apart from the inherent racism involved. You continually try to provoke something by lumping all ND fans together, and when someone responds to you in a civil manner, you turn offensive. When you want to effing grow up, come back and address what I have said. I’d make a comment about people from Boston, but no, and not even BC fans. I’m sure some of them are lovely people. You are an ass.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
A-freaking-men
Trollers gonna troll. Obviously, this is all this guy wants to do. He brings nothing to the table other than being a jerk with every comment. Hey waterwater, if you what to be an ass to a group of ND fans make your way over the NDNATION.COM. That way all your theories of “ALL ND FANS THINK…” will be relevant.
Is that you Will?
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
Nothing?
I had a very nice explanation about Kuechly with some nice data. Right? That was pretty good info.Does that make me an ass or jerk? Hope not
I also gave you my view that BC should not overvalue the ND series. We need to focus on better competition in the ACC than ND – VT, FSU, GT, UNC, Clemson, even Wake. If ND joins the ACC the series would become meaningful, but as of now it is a dalliance
Don’t get mad that I see things from a different view point
So I guess my question for you is
what do you think BC should do? Are you saying they should drop ND for a northeastern school? You said ND doesn’t help in recruiting or exposure, so what schools would you rather see BC play? Just genuinely curious.
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Best thing BC can do is be ACC champ
But spreading around it’s OOC games makes sense. Maybe USC, Penn state, Texas, UCLa, Stanford. And every few years ND too
So you really don't view ND as a rival at all and don't care if BC plays us every year?
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Which answer does he think is going to rile us up more? That's the one he'll give.
If he cares so little about ND, he’s doing what here again? Exactly.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I have nothing against people with dissenting views...
Most of your assertions about ND fans is completely false and unfounded, which you’re saying just to get a rise out of some people. There’s no need for it at all. I like discussion, it’s why I come here. Fans of OFD come here to discuss/argue points all day long (KG throughout the night), but at the end of the day we can agree on one thing, and that is that we are fans of ND even though we may have a different point of view of how the team should be run, what gameplan should be followed and whether the latest Shamrock Series jersey was ugly (which it definitely was!)
However, you come in here and start spouting crap that everyone here agreed with you about (Kuechly), but you kept going because you have too much pride and don’t know when to walk away from an argument/agreement. On top of that, you start in on one of OFD’s best commenters? C’mon man, move on…you obviously just want to piss people off.
Oh and KG is like 89 hours behind east coast time, so he’ll be with us all night long. :-)
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
You guys were suggesting , repeatedly, that Kuechly’s stats were padded, BC’s bad record is why he has good stats, etc That all needed responses. I thought it was a pleasant discussion. No?
My only other point was, in essence, the Holy War is really not a great series. Is that bad? The whole post I was responding to was that you alL, did not want BC to be considered a rival. I agreed and offered the BC perspective. Bad?
I offended KG? Was I supposed to take him seriously? And I did not know he was a sacred cow. oMg I will be tossing and turning all night :-)
What were my unfounded assertions? That once-upon-a-time Jimmy C was a viewed as a savior? I think that is accurate. Was there something else?
First of all...
We were simply throwing out theories and brainstorming as to why his stats could be the way they are. I’m sorry, but 168 tackles in ten games is quite ridiculous and so most of us do what people do and ask questions as to why that number is so “out there.” Many of the ideas are joking around and poking fun, and as soon as you brought some light to the fact, our boys look at stats and concluded what they did. We never said he isn’t a great player OR that his tackle stats were inflated as part of a huge conspiracy. We aren’t a bunch of guys here who take theories as fact, like many other blogs. When the guys need to, they research and dig up facts like any other respected source.
Secondly, how isn’t this a great series? Is it because it doesn’t date back to the early 1900’s? Is it because both teams have sucked in recent memory? It has all the makings of a great rivalry: records are nearly identical (11-9 ND), both are Catholic institutions, both celebrate Irish heritage and there have been some huge upsets (pretty much from the underdog BC teams, when ND was ranked highly).
Finally, Jimmy C was touted as a savior of the program because he was a HIGHLY RECRUITED AND TOUTED freshman!!!! Obviously, it didn’t pan out that way, even though he had all the tools but he didn’t have a stable offensive line or a set of running backs to succeed. To call him overrated is not all that true considering the circumstances. I will give it to you that he’s an arrogant and cocky MOFO, but he did have all the physical talent in the world. As for calling Matt Ryan underrated? Really? The guy was up for the Heisman, so obviously he’s NOT underrated. Hell, he won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award, Manning Award and lost the Heisman to Tim Tebow. Your assertion that he’s underrated was completely ludicrous.
As for KG, you took exception to what he said when we all know he’s joking around, he tried to make amends and move on and you just couldn’t let it go. Big Internet tough guy over here, cant wait for this week to be over so you can crawl back into your little BC hole.
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
Hmmm
U were making your case until that last Para. It undercut your points badly. Don’t lose your style with ad hominem attacks
You were asserting that the Holy War isn't that great?
Is that all you’re saying? Because you’ve also said that BC should drop Notre Dame because the series does nothing for the Eagles.
Look, we’re all sorry ND has a lot more history and tradition than BC, and that many of us consider the Eagles a rival, but a second-tier rival at best. That’s just the way it is.
However, please tell us who are Boston College’s other rivals in football?
Holy Cross—-whom you don’t play anymore?
Is it Syracuse? Or perhaps one of the teams in the ACC that you’ve played on a consistent basis for less than a decade?
Seems to me that Notre Dame is BC’s main rival, no?
And you’re perfectly okay with BC walking away from its main rival in football because…..?
How many BC students and alumni agree with you?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Eric you are unravelling
‘BC is a second tier rival and ND has more history.’ These are the usual old saws of the NDer who is pushed a little too hard. BC has a fine history — playing football for over 100 years, including playing Syracuse for something like 50 years. (HC no longer has FBS football) And, we are not your rival at all and ND is not and has never been BC’s “main rival.” As I say, you are unravelling. Where did you get that one from? Your granny?
I am ok with walking away from ND, in fact, I’d be happy with it. BC will gain in reputation by winning the ACC championship, going to a BCS bowl and winning, not by beating a has-been (or losing to a has-been). Maybe if ND becomes a powerhouse again, I’d feel differently, but as it stands now ND is a top 20-40 program. Big deal.
Now I just feel sorry you
I imagine the folks at BCI are furiously hoping you will shut up and just walk away from our site ASAP.
If you would like to continue this discussion like a grown up then answer the following questions:
1. Who is Boston College’s main rival in football? What are the top three BC football rivalry games?
2. Discuss how playing Notre Dame on a (nearly) annual basis is preventing BC from winning ACC titles and going to BCS bowl games.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
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And, we are not your rival at all and ND is not and has never been BC’s "main rival."
I have no words, only memes.
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Why would I ever take a goof ball like you seriously?
Bad haiku poetry? Meaningless gibberish in Japanese which is untranslatable.
Try to diss me on the kinks and finding out you lack a clue.
And now pulling the race card. Please, you sound like a total kook
There's a difference between "untranslatable" and "Google Translate is a piece of shit and won't help you. "
You’re the one that pulled out haiku and Japanese, and you think I’m a kook for responding in kind? Mother effer, I read 16th century Japanese as a bed time story. You think you’re smart and translate something with Google, and can’t handle it when you get it returned to you and can’t understand it. And your answer is to make a masturbation joke? I don’t give a shit if you take me seriously or not. But people here are trying very hard to give you the benefit of the doubt and respond seriously to you. You’re combative on the good end, insulting on the bad end.
Congratulations, I missed a reference that you didn’t know either, Mr. Urban Dictionary. You’re still a troll, and it’s unreal to me that the fine management of this site has yet to ban your ass.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'll take waterwater over those Michigan State fans we dealt with any day.
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Yes, but they were at least talking about football, and thought they would win.
This guy knows his team sucks, and still wants to be all “we don’t need you”. As if that’s going to piss any of us off? Fine, BC, take a hike.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
for a guy who supposedly reads 16th century Japanese, you are quite a potty mouth. tsk tsk.
but i am assuming you are just a spoof. Good one.
Yep, because lying about reading old Japanese makes one so cool. You should see the tail I pull with that line.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
If reading old Japanese is cool, I consider you Miles Davis.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You see that people? that's called teamwork. Nicely done.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
You have a really weird world view.
Playing Notre Dame in football is big for Boston College. To argue otherwise is just stirring the pot for the sake of stirring the pot. The coverage and hype you get on a yearly basis, even when neither team is that good, is better than 90% of the games you’ll play in the ACC, or elsewhere for that matter.
Just go look at BC Interruption’s post today on the attendance at Alumni Stadium. You really think you’re in a position where if you could walk away from the ND series that it’s a smart move?
This whole old vs. modern series worldview you’re talking about…….huh?
The BC-ND series is a modern one in every sense of the word.
Where is this “retro” series?
You came on here earlier because we were nitpicking Kuechly’s performance this year, and now you’re bringing up these wild beliefs on Notre Dame and the series with BC.
Like Method Man said, “Go ahead with that bullsh!t.”
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Selling out Alumni is not a big item. Against top quality ACC teams, BC will draw close to capacity and sometimes sells out. So ND visiting adds maybe 2,000 more fans. That translate to 2,000 x $30 per ticket = $60,000 . Not really a big deal.
BC gets similar exposure in games against marquee ACC programs as it does with ND games. but do not get me wrong, the the ND publicity bump is nice.
But hey join the ACC and the whole picture changes. We’ve been saving you a spot.
You were nearly 6,000 short of a sellout this year
When FSU came to town—-and that’s the highest attendance on the season for BC.
Playing ND doesn’t take away from your marquee ACC games. It’s not an either/or proposition. There’s one team that almost always guarantees you a sellout and lots of hype/attention/coverage every single year.
And they don’t play in the ACC.
A smart BC fan would hold on tight to this ND series and try to build around it if possible, not wish to see the series end for rather silly reasons.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Come on, bro.
Against top quality ACC teams, BC will draw close to capacity and sometimes sells out.
So outside of ND, your stadium’s best day is to draw close to capacity? Then we come in and it sells out. It’s more than ticket sales. It’s the montages you see on NBC and ESPN leading up to the game. It’s national TV for BC. National national TV, not part of an ESPN coverage map. Then at your place, it’s a more favorable ESPN coverage map. Granted that we have been awful for 15 years, but we’re still a draw, and it still ups BC’s profile to be associated with us, i.e. as a rival.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe you want some more fealty from BC?
Are we supposed to offer praise? I think you really want me (BC fans) to say thank you for allowing BC to bask in ND’s reflected glory. Sorry, we’re The REAL Irish (in big part) and that will never happen
I’d rather build a better program without regard to ND
As for attendance this year, there is massive apathy due to poor play.
Nope...
But you guys sure don’t give us any credit when your team gets national exposure, which equals more money AND opportunities for recruits to see what they could be in for if they sign with BC. You’re welcome…
"Although I really thought that you were 'Anti Internet-Tough-Guy.' But no, you’re a tough guy who’s against the internets? I see." Mouth of the South
You should probably at least show some respect for Notre Dame
And the series ND has with Boston College.
You know, instead of showing your massive inferiority complex.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
What do ye seek laddie?
Are you looking for respect or something more? We all have plenty of respect for ND, its sports, its academics, its character. But when you call us second tier, say we have an inferiority complex and the rest of the usual shit that unhinged NDer’s hurl, well then that tells me you are unsure of your place in the world and want some validation from BC and others. Sorry chap, you on your own for that.
Good luck tomorrow and hope you have an enjoyable game day.
Who's calling BC second tier?
BC is a second-tier rivalry for Notre Dame, that doesn’t necessarily mean BC is a second-tier school.
Here’s the deal: Most ND fans think BC is a rivalry game, but it’s not on the level of USC and UM for us. Those who don’t think BC is a rivalry at all are typically still pissed about 1993 or too smug to admit it.
On the flip side, the vast majority of BC fans and alumni view Notre Dame as a main rival.
Say what you want about ND fans looking down on BC (yes we have some, although few if any here at OFD), but you’re essentially doing the same thing here by:
1. Refusing to admit that ND is a rivalry game for BC
2. Giving utterly retarded reasons why BC shouldn’t play ND, all based around the fact that ND is mediocre or “second tier” itself and does nothing for the Eagle program.
At BCI and in other BC media outlets they have no problem admitting that this is a rivalry game, a huge game—-BC’s bowl game this year in fact.
All those BC people are dead wrong, and you’re completely right?
Why aren’t you over at BCI pestering your own fans and trying to convince them that ND isn’t a rival and does nothing for BC?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
‘like a grown up’ eric. really. weren;t you the one hurling the uusal ND insults. was that grown up?
1. Our rivals are the other 11 ACC teams. ND is not a rival. ND is a nice OOC game. here is test of ‘rival-ness: Does the game matter? Winning or losing does not add or subtract from our main goal; win the ACC. The ND game is normally of no consequence to BC and hence ND is not a rival. What are we ’rivalling’ for? Granny’s love? You can certainly quibble with words and some can consider ND a rival. BUt Most from BC do not consider ND a rival.
2. Our recent historical rivals were BE teams, before that rivals included Penn State, Holy Cross and teams the were also in the BE.
3. Playing ND does not limit our ability to win the ACC, you are correct
4. But playing ND every year does not help BC either because ND is not what it used to be. I’d like to see more variety and to play some present day powers. Playing ND doe snot helpf with recruiting or the school’s applicant pool.
5. BC and ND are two very different places that really do not have that much in common and have very different students and alums. For alums since, say, 1980, (>~55) ND is just not really very interesting or notable. Merely being two Catholic schools is not enough. (are ND and SJU basketball rivals?)
So when you assume the following, you make a mistake:
the vast majority of BC fans and alumni view Notre Dame as a main rival.
and this one is really stupid and designed to be insulting (as expected)
BC’s bowl game this year in fact.
Chill dude!. You are reminding me of Sally Fields when she accepted her Oscar.
What insults have I hurled?
You don’t seem capable of arguing about these matters without reflexively “sticking up” for BC and at the same time hurling these little insults towards Notre Dame.
Can’t you see how you’re doing the exact thing you’re yelling at us for doing—-which we’re not?
1. Great, your rivals are ACC teams. That doesn’t mean ND still can’t be a rival. This is a point you don’t seem to be able to comprehend.
Yes, the game matters. You’re not much of a college football fan if you think only conference games matter. Michigan is in the Big Ten—-why does the rivalry with ND matter to them? What about Florida-FSU? Should I go on?
2. And where are these rivalry games today?
4. It’s fine if you want BC to play other schools, but it just smacks of hate towards ND when your school is scheduling the likes of UMass, Weber State, and Kent State—-and then act like the ND game doesn’t do anything for BC because the Irish aren’t “what they used to be.”
5. Utterly ridiculous statement. ND just really isn’t that interesting or notable for the younger generation huh? Boy I bet you wish you could convince people of that.
ND & SJU: Are these the only two Catholic schools in basketball? When they play will a SJU fan go on to a ND site to troll the hell out of them? When ND goes to SJU is it the only time they sell out their arena? Is there constant bickering between the fans of both schools? Do the kids from the schools typically look at both ND & SJU?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
On 5. We have not been good for a long time, but "we're not what we used to be"?
BC is 3-7 and ND isn’t what it used to be?
If the arrow is pointing up for one of us, it’s ND.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
This reminds me of the "Cancel all of my appointments. Someone is wrong on the internet gif."
Mr. waterwater is not getting it, gents.
I think that some people are so surprised with the level of reasonableness of the writers and commenters here that they just do not know what to do with it. They assume that it is like most other places, so they act like they do in most other places. If they don’t want to have an intelligent, reasonable, enlightened DISUSSION—i.e. not argument—then we don’t need them and may as well ignore them.
We have the utmost respect for BC, for our rivalry with BC, and for Luke Keuchly. What more need we say?
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
No, you just have a view that's completely backwards from the rest of your school
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‘s fanbase and you think it applies to everyone. That’s cool. More power to you I guess.
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It's fine to have the opinion that the ND game doesn't matter to you
but I think it’s false to say it applies to all BC fans.
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you are when you say that we're saying that Keuchly is not good
because no one ever said that.
And when you say that we’re saying that BC is second tier. No one ever said that. Try to appreciate the nuance.
And when you say that you’re the “real Irish.” That stings a little.
And I think your position on our rivalry/non-rivalry is a little unreasonable, but less so. You’re entitled to your opinion on that, though I don’t think that it’s realistic to say that this rivalry is unimportant to BC.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
It has nothing to do with the quality of your school or your football program
As far as RIVALS go, BC isn’t on the same level as USC or Michigan in the eyes of Irish fans.
Purdue hates ND with a passion but we don’t care that much about them because there isn’t much history between the schools besides playing every year and the schools are both in Indiana.
The BC series has had some close and exciting games and pits the two Catholic FBS schools against each other. ND fans appreciate that a lot more than whatever we have with Purdue.
It’s like saying Cap’n Crunch is your favorte (first tier) cereal, while Cocoa Puffs are your second favorite (second tier). You aren’t saying you hate Cocoa Puffs, you just don’t like them as much as Cap’n Crunch.
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Nor are you saying that Cocoa Puffs are objectively less good or of lower inherent worth than the Cap'n.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
It's solely a matter of taste.
You’re saying that we’re not your rival at all, so we’re “no tier” or “bottom tier” to you, correct?
We are not offended at this, but we disagree with you on the importance of this game to the BC fanbase as a whole.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
so you speak for BC and i don't
it is fascinating how important it is for the insecure NDers to characterize BC has having ND as its MAIN rival, but ND only cosinders BC a “second tier” rival. and you are so very very persistent about it.
AND you think you know NC better than I do! — an alum with literally hundreds of BC connections, if not thousands, including dozens on a daily basis!
Freud would have a field day!
What is your explanation for why BC's only home sellout is vs. ND?
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
....
it is fascinating how important it is for the insecure NDers to characterize BC has having ND as its MAIN rival, but ND only cosinders BC a "second tier" rival. and you are so very very persistent about it.
No Freud would have a field day with this. You should go talk to some Purdue fan’s about feeling insecure and such towards the series with ND.
We wouldn’t be so persistent about it if you didn’t take the time out of your day to come over here and make such a big deal about it (clearly against the opinions and history of your own fan base) and try to give us a history lesson.
You’re the insecure one. BC is a second-tier rival for ND and ND is a main rival to BC—-just like Purdue’s relationship with ND. This is agreed upon by nearly everyone in college football, with yourself leading a very tiny vocal minority.
That is insecurity. Heck, we’re all arguing that BC is in fact a rival for ND—-how are we being insecure again?
AND you think you know NC better than I do! — an alum with literally hundreds of BC connections, if not thousands, including dozens on a daily basis!
Oh, look you’re so important! I’m sorry you’re not insecure you’re an alum with all these connections. Why didn’t you tell us before? Now everything you’ve said makes total sense.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
BC is a second-tier rival for ND and ND is a main rival to BC—-just like Purdue’s relationship with ND
and that is life with ND in a nutshell and the reason why most people want nothing to do with you!
We don't consider Purdue as big a rival as they consider us? And that's a problem?
We aren’t USC’s main rival. Or Michigan’s main rivals. We don’t care. We hate them all the same. I don’t see where the problem is.
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This is always fun to watch. Facts trump opinions, waterwater…
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I sure do
And it looks like many of my buddies here also do. It is YOU who has trouble discerning facts from opinions. Most of what you have said has been opinion and we refuted them with either stats used to come to a factual understanding or blown a big hole in your massive theories about ND.
I’m so glad the majority of BC fans aren’t like you, I’m guessing they have real intelligence, but that would be opinion. So I guess I KNOW they are brighter than you are, which is fact.
See? I do know the difference. Now, run along little one, your inferiority complex doesn’t like waiting…
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true colors coming out very nicely
it is the fall, and ND colors are coming out in full bloom…
it was pretty hard to surpress your feelings of superiority under guise of reasonableness for so long., now wasn’t it?
a bet you a suddenly feeling more NDish, right?
You started out reasonable
You contributed to the discussion and backed up your assertions in not-unreasonable terms.
Now you’re turning into a jerk. Tone it down.
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but
once i saw what Eric really thought, i needed to comment.
I actually thought you guys were pretty nice to chat with, that is until the arrogance started an the Gyro guy started spinning
Tha t ND arrogance has gone on for generations … it is ugly and not needed.
Yes, I'm so arrogant.
It couldn’t POSSIBLY be a fact that someone on the internet speaks Japanese, much less reads old Japanese, much less is a grad student doing research in it, having lived in Japan for the better part of a decade. I simply MUST be making all that up, and it proves that all ND fans are arrogant. Wow, you’re so inciteful. Do you do psychoanalysis? I simply must get your book.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Water your head is spinning so much
You don’t know what to say anymore.
But ever so slowly we have got your real feelings out in the open.
You say ND isn’t a rival to BC. You say you want BC to end the series with ND, etc. etc.
Like I’ve already said, you just don’t like Notre Dame—-and that’s all there is to it.
You would have been better off just calling us arrogant to begin with.
If saying BC is one of our secondary rivals and that we are a main rival for BC, makes us arrogant—-well that’s just life.
And trust me, we’ll live it. We’ll live with it just fine.
You know who the people are who get upset by that statement vis a vis BC being a secondary rival for ND? People like you who are insecure about their football team and university.
See, now we’ve come full circle!!
Now, my suggestion to you is to just give up. You tried your little heart out to troll OFD and you did your best. There’s no shame in walking away now.
You’re not the first and you won’t be the last person to call Notre Dame arrogant and bring up all these fantastical opinions that you think are valid.
The Holy War (why would this game have numerous nicknames and two rivalry trophies if it’s not a rivalry?) is in fact a rivalry and it is a secondary one for Notre Dame. This is the world we live in, and it’s just too bad if that upsets you.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
agreeing you are arrogant is no virtue
especially when that arrogance has no basis in FACT or OPINION.
Pathetic is what it is.
If saying BC is one of our secondary rivals and that we are a main rival for BC, makes us arrogant—-well that’s just life. And trust me, we’ll live it. We’ll live with it just fine
He's right, Eric.
Clearly, ND is worthless to BC and shouldn’t even be a rival, but we insult them by considering them a less important rivalry than USC or Michigan. It makes perfect sense. I thank waterwater for showing us our misguided ways, and actually hope we lose to BC as a lesson to all of Notre Dame fans everywhere, for their hubris.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
And classy, too.
Thanks for showing us how to operate, Mr. Eagle.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
No, I'll leave that to the Vogons
unless you’d like to show us all some? You’ve proven superior at everything else, please demonstrate for us.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
What should I stop? Complimenting you?
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
ok
ok, ND is a “second tier” rival of BC, if that floats your boat. Is that what you are looking for?
I think we have an agreement.
Yep, looks like we agree on something.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Bro, don't back track.
I thought we agreed: BC and ND are each others’ second-tier rivals. Don’t back out of our agreement.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's not surprising that you've taken the one comment
That could be perceived as a knock on BC, and totally misunderstood it.
You’ve now had three writers from this site explain to you. It’s not meant as a disparaging comment towards BC.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
It's also pretty odd that if you visit the BC football wiki page
90% of the rivalry information is on the series with Notre Dame.
Sky rockets in flight.
I knew you would say that
It just goes to show how little information is out there concerning BC’s rivals in football.
Why don’t you go there and erase all that info, since it’s clearly not true.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Geez Eric
That was definitely planted there by ND fans who want to pump this non-rivalry. Everyone knows everything on Wikipedia is false. Unless it proves your point.
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"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Just post the "someone is wrong on the internet" gif and be done with it
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
You're the boss
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
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The Japanese History Podcast
by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Also
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish + Hawaii Warriors
The Japanese History Podcast
by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 18, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Waterwater
I’ve inspected your profile and the time has come for you to leave.
You have had numerous comments deleted on BC Interruption and on other sites around the SB Network. You are currently banned from 3 SBN sites, including the precursor to One Foot Down—-Rakes of Mallow.
Our own CW summed it up good with his comment to you:
You even embarrassed other BC fans.
You are not offering any insight and you are not adding to the discussion at all. After continuing to act like a troll, you are now being treated like one.
Now, run along and tell all of your BC buddies how mean the arrogant ND website to you. We run our site with respect to other teams and schools and you could not live up to those ideals. You are in rarefied air as a banned commentator here on this site.
Congratulations.
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 18, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
E, you need to set up a Wall of Shame.
Kind of like the glass where the bodega owner posted Jerry Seinfeld’s bad check.
Just so everyone knows how few people we ban, and how bad you need to be to get banned.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 18, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Whitewater
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to them. I award you no recs, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I just read that whole thing again.
Just wanted to tip the hat to all of you guys for handling that the way that you did. Everyone does a great job of keeping the conversation friendly and productive around here and that remains my favorite thing about our site.
Now that water made us get a quick education on how to handle such things we will be sure to shut it down quicker next time.
Thanks again gents.
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