Basketball Tips Off: First Impressions
The Irish took on the #4 NAIA Team, the St. Xavier Cougars in their first exhibition game of the 2011-2012 Basketball season and displayed all the different looks that this year's Notre Dame team could put out on the floor as all 10 available players saw action in the 90-72 win
Wooden Award Candidate Tim Abromaitis paced the Irish with 28 points scoring in every way from the FT line to a thunderous dunk previously unseen from the Co-Captain. The most positive takeaway from tonight's game also came from Abro as well - his new and improved quick release. Last season there were times creating a spot up shot for Abro was a challenge for the Irish offense because of his beautiful-but-deliberate shot release. On Tuesday night, he displayed a shot with a quicker formation of the shot angle and release with more of a flick of the wrist than he had before. Considering his 3 three point field goals, I would say the accuracy has largely stuck with him.
Eric Atkins also looked comfortable in his new full time floor general role putting up 19 points and dropping 6 dimes while only committing 1 turnover. If I had to use one word to describe how the young guard looks- it would be "smooth." Everything from his movement to his shot looks a lot silkier than it did last season and in Mike Brey's intricate motion offense, a smooth looking PG is a major plus.
With Co-Captain Scott Martin sitting out because of a lingering ankle injury, both sophomore Jerian Grant and junior Joey Brooks were in the starting lineup Tuesday night. Then sophomore Alex Dragicevich replaced Grant in the second half starting 5. So it looks like the 5th starter spot is still a bit muddled, and frankly may not matter considering the contributions all three can make to this team.
While Brooks struggled with his shooting, he excelled in other areas of the game particularly on defense as he moved his feet well and defended the SG, SF, and PF position interchangeably all night. He was physical on both ends, drawing fouls and sweeping for offensive rebounds. He also displayed some improved playmaking ability dropping some dimes that ended in dunks for Jack Cooley and Abromaitis.
Grant showed why people around the program have been so excited about him displaying outstanding speed and athleticism, an element ND hasn't had in a 2 guard in quite some time. His shooting needs to continue to improve and he was at times too eager on the defensive end, but he and Atkins look like they can combine to be among the most athletic backcourts in the country.
Dragicevich played early and often both on the wings and also as the backup PG showing flashes of the advantages of having a 6'7" PG. He showed the ability to both stop on a dime and hit a pull up and also good change of pace dribble penetration.
It was encouraging to see all three big men play well as Jack Cooley, Tom Knight and Mike Broghammer all rebounded well and were active on both sides of the ball. It was especially nice to see Broghammer, who has struggled with chronic knee injuries, on the court and his first play was a swooping putback dunk off a Brooks miss. Cooley was especially impressive dominating the smaller Cougar frontcourt w ith 14 points 11 rebounds and 2 blocks.
Freshman Patrick Connaughton proved why he was Massachusetts' Mr. Basketball hitting corner 3's, skying for rebounds and even making plays for others. Brey doesn't usually like to utilize freshmen, but Connaughton may have something to say about that this year.
This year's Irish squad is younger, more athletic and different from Irish squads of recent memory. They can play a fast paced transition oriented style with Atkins, Grant and Brooks manning the backcourt with Abro and Martin playing the trail bigs or go very big by having both Knight and Cooley out there in the front court with Abro. The versatility that the current 10 man roster presents is promising and, I believe, even tangible - so while Brey may be trying to lower expectations, this Irish squad doesn't seem to be buying any of it.
Guards Roosevelt Green and Brad Karp kept the Cougars in the game for the first 30 minutes with 19 and 25 points respectively.
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Nice breakdown
Should we expect a “better than people think” finish in the Big East this year?
Sky rockets in flight.
we were voted to finish 9th (by other big east coaches)
i fully expect ND to finish in the top 6 if not top 4
by 4pointshooter on Nov 2, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you're right!
And these players do seem to go from complete non-factor to productive over night. Abro being the best example.
by Chris Schumerth on Nov 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Of Course
It happens every year. You would think they would eventually give the Irish the benefit of the doubt. Mike Brey is a good coach and a good human being. Not sure I could say the latter about Coach Kelly.
Brey is a good coach indeed
but keep in mind this guy DID have a extramarital affair scandal less than two years ago while kelly has none.
don’t meant to TMZ the comment board but just saying you never know with these things
by 4pointshooter on Nov 2, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Where's the beef...
with Coach Kelly?
Are we still trying to blame the Sullivan tragedy on the football coach?
by Mouth of the South on Nov 3, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Where's the beef...
with Coach Kelly?
Are we still trying to blame the Sullivan tragedy solely on the football coach?
by Mouth of the South on Nov 3, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just a gut feeling
That is fair. I like the way Brey handles himself better in public. Kelly just seems like a nightmare to talk to in the media. And of course his purple outrages are well documented. Brey wouldn’t have pulled Crist after one half (Although he probably wouldn’t let any Freshmen or Sophomores play either).
You just have a gut feeling that Brian Kelly is a bad human being??
The guy is a smooth talking politician with the media—-how is he a nightmare with them?
Getting really angry during one football game makes one a bad human being?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 2, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
brey vs. kelly
brey’s inexplicable southern droll certainly plays well to most people in terms of image enhancement and seemingly being “of the people”
but i know for a fact that the local media loves kelly and he has good relations with them all. he’s had one bad game in which he screamed a lot, but i think he’s as amicable as it gets in terms dealing with the media as eric said
by 4pointshooter on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And he doesn't talk to reporters like they're five year olds like Weis
One Foot Down
On teh Twitterz
"Well, I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus..."
/proceeds to throw players under bus by name
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish + Hawaii Warriors
The Japanese History Podcast
by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't say that, if memory serves,
Or is that a direct quote?
He said that 9 times out of 10, he’ll fall on the sword, but that post-SC was essentially the 1 time out of 10 that he would call guys out.
by Mouth of the South on Nov 3, 2011 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't talking about Kelly
Weis said that in practically every post-loss press conference.
In other words, a lot.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish + Hawaii Warriors
The Japanese History Podcast
by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 3, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The media doesn't have any problem with Brian Kelly. Their problem is with Notre Dame.
Kelly’s things get blown out of proportion because he’s at ND. You think anyone would care if Nick Saban yelled at a player? Do you think anyone would pay any attention if Urban Meyer went took over at a school and said he had to retrain the team to win? No, and no. The media HAVE to talk about Notre Dame, good or bad, and so they latch on to anything they can to make a story. And the pathetic, self-loathing end of our fan base spectrum has it in their head that Kelly is bad, so no matter what he does, he’s a bad coach and a bad human being. No one seems to remember that one of the knocks on Willingham was that he never showed emotion, never got fired up and yelled at the players when they screwed up, how can you call that coaching?, etc. No one seems to remember Lou Holtz putting a ref in a head lock and grabbing players by the face mask.
Of course, these are the same people who call Kelly’s offense a “Pass Happy, Gay-Ass Spread”, but then call for him to be replaced by Bob Stoops (note: runs spread, offense threw for 500+ yards last game, is 2nd in the country in passing at 396.6 yards per game, and 51st in rushing at 167.0 ypg), and Urban Meyer (also runs spread offense, was run-heavy at Florida because he had Tebow, who can’t pass—sorry Denver—but threw more when he had Alex Smith at Utah).
For the record, we’re 46th in total rushing with 173 ypg. Yes, we outrun Oklahoma. But somehow firing Kelly and bringing in Stoops (because of COURSE he wants to leave Oklahoma for ND) would be so much better…
Sorry…didn’t mean to get into football stats in a basketball thread, but I’ve really got nothing to say about basketball, other than they’ll inevitably get my hopes up with a better than expected regular season, only to crap the bed in March.
"HEY! The inspiring speech is my bit, and I'm not going to let some fancypants Nobel Laureate take it away from me."
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish + Hawaii Warriors
The Japanese History Podcast
by Kelly's Gyros on Nov 2, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor 4PointShooter
We try to bring foosball to his roundball party.
Ok, hoops question:
Based on your write up, I am extremely optimistic. It sounds like we have a lot of talent, size and athleticism. Should I temper my optimism?
by Mouth of the South on Nov 3, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
On the Twitterz
There was a lot of talk about the poor D from the Irish.
They didn’t exactly blow out an inferior opponent. Care to speak to that too?
Sky rockets in flight.
by Eric Murtaugh on Nov 3, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
D was sloppy here and there
but also good reason for optimism considering the athleticism and size present throughout the lineup- st. xavier also hit a bunch of ridiculous threes, so perimeter d needs to be a lil more alert on its feet, weakside D was slow to recover, but nothing egregious
by 4pointshooter on Nov 3, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
optimism is a incurable disease for irish bball fans
just because they overperform all year then let us down in the tournament.
but if you’re going purely on what is expected preseason (8-9th in the big east) i think it’s fair to say we’ll contend for a top 4-6 finish
by 4pointshooter on Nov 3, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but this is much better than the days when we'd underperform or perform in mediocre fashion, only to miss the tourney.
Brey has grown a lot as a coach in his time at ND, wouldn’t you say?
by Mouth of the South on Nov 4, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
absolutely
brey has really improved in terms of ability to win and play the kind of basketball necessary to get 20+ wins annually. i’m most impressed by his recent recruiting effort-
atkins, grant and dragicevich
connaughton
bleidscheld, burgette, auguste (2012)
beachem and vasturia (2013)
almost all of these guys are consensus 4 star prospects and a good lot of them are electrifying athletes
by 4pointshooter on Nov 4, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions

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