2011 Pro Day Results: Not Much Has Changed
Nine former Notre Dame players held their pro day work outs on Thursday and everything went as expected for the most part.
Here is a recap of the events based on the small amount of film available and analysis by Irish Illustrated's Tim Prister.
Kyle Rudolph-TE
Rudolph earned some points for seemingly being as healthy as possible and he generally looked very good in workouts. His 40-time wasn't amazing (4.78) but that's just about where most unbiased observers thought he would be.
Overall, not much has changed with his stock. Since he's proven that he is healthy his chances at a first round selection improved slightly, but there wasn't much that could have happened that was going to move Rudolph out of the position as the number one tight end in the draft.
Armando Allen-RB
Prister commented on how small Allen looked out of pads and that he just does not look like a NFL running back. I tend to agree and thought there wasn't much Allen could do to help his stock besides posting some blazing fast numbers.
However, he didn't really do that with a respectable but not amazing 4.58 time in the 40-yard dash. Allen is still a well-rounded running back who showed off his receiving skills, and I think a few teams will seriously consider signing him to a contract, but he has an uphill climb for sure.
Robert Hughes-RB
Hughes came into the pro day in great shape having dropped about 20 pounds and looking very fit. He showed off his receiving skills and generally got positive reviews from those in attendance.
Early last season I was chastised by a couple readers for claiming that Hughes is slow and can't run below a 4.8 time in the 40-yard dash. Even after dropping 20 pounds and weighing around 220, Hughes still clocked in twice at a snail-like 4.89 time.
To put this into perspective, that would have been the slowest time among running backs out of the last six years of testing at the NFL combine, and is a rather slow time even for a fullback. On Thursday, Hughes only beat two linemen (Stewart and Williams) and a slightly injured linebacker in Kerry Neal in the 40-yard dash.
I don't think I need to tell you I told you so, or that Hughes' chances in the NFL are very slim. The rest of his workout seemed to go really well so you never know what's going to happen.
Duval Kamara-WR
There wasn't a whole lot of talk or attention paid to Kamara but he seemed to be in good shape and did pretty well in the drills.
His 40-yard dash time of 4.75 was to be expected but isn't really helping his chances at a draft pick later this month.
Overall, he showed decent quickness and good hands for a big receiver, but he's a long shot out of this group of players. There is some potential with Kamara but there are also way too many improvements that need to be made with his game.
Kerry Neal-LB
As already mentioned, Neal had some sort of lower leg injury and it was obvious that he was not 100 percent during his pro day.
You have to give him credit for going out there and giving it his all, but being under-sized and not moving too well are two big strikes against a linebacker.
It is unfortunate that he had the injury, but the reality is the workout probably hurt his stock more than anything.
Brian Smith-LB
I thought physically Brian Smith looked in great shape. Maybe it was because he wasn't in pads, but he looks almost like a different person to me.
Nevertheless, he did not move well in some of the film I watched, but he did post some pretty good numbers in other drills.
There's still some late-round potential here, but I don't think Smith's workout either helped or hurt his stock.
Chris Stewart-OG
Stewart came in having dropped a ton of weight but I was not impressed with the way he moved at all. If he was a more physical run blocker I believe his chances at getting picked up by a team would be greater, but I just didn't see that during his career in college.
His size may be tempting for some clubs and you have to wonder what he could do with focusing 100 percent on football, but I don't think his workout really impressed too many folks.
Darrin Walls-CB
Out of everyone involved on Thursday clearly Walls had the most impressive workout and might have put himself in position to get drafted.
He looked awfully small to me, much more so than he looked in games with pads on, but he ran a scorching 4.39 time in the 40-yard dash as well as an impressive 10.82 in the 60-yard shuttle.
Seeing as how Walls generally played pretty well as a senior, this workout had to move him at least into late-round contention. I think he'll be on a NFL roster very soon.
Ian Williams-DT
I was impressed with Williams' agility and I think he's somewhat of a freakish athlete who has to be a mid-round pick at the very least.
I think NFL teams can count on Williams to be able to handle the physical nature of his position at the next level and they must be very impressed with the way he moves for someone over 300 pounds.
He's probably still a little bit of a project, but I like Williams' chances to play in the NFL for quite a while.
Good luck to all the former Irish players who were at the workout!
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Re. - Rudolph’s speed – he scored last year against Michigan after running 95 yards with nary a Michigan d-back able to catch him. Isn’t that good enough?
by terry on Apr 8, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
I mean…I guess so?
He’s definitely not slow, but I wouldn’t point to that one play and say that he’s fast. Clearly he has good speed for a big 6’6" dude with lots of muscle, but he’s not going to be considered fast in the NFL.
Plus, that whole play was a mockery of safety play by the Michigan defender. He was literally stepping forward, completely out of position, mistimed his jump, and left Rudolph open going the other way. It’s not like Rudy took a bubble screen at the five and out raced everyone.
by Eric Murtaugh on Apr 8, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
Great summary, EM,
You’re right on Rudolph. His speed is not an issue. I think KR’s 1st round possibilities are more about teams’ perceived needs than his abilities. Think Gronkowski’s season at NE could help him?
The Allen & Hughes numbers are bit of a surprise. Armando in particular seemed to be talked about as this guy with great speed who was going to break out. Out of curiosity, are there any reliable 40 times out there for Cierre Wood or Jonas Gray?
by Treeplay Domer on Apr 8, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
Right, speed really isn’t an issue with Rudy, but he would be a mortal lock for a first round pick with a better 40-time. That’s just the way it goes. His ability to stay healthy and team needs will be the bigger influences on draft day.
I can’t say I was shocked by either Hughes or Allen’s numbers.
I knew Allen wouldn’t be near 4.4 flat, but it would have been nice to see him closer to 4.5 flat. I thought with the weight loss, Hughes had a chance to be around 4.75, but a 4.89 is somewhat shocking. Was he able to break 5.0 during the season???
I think Wood will be a 4.4-type of guy. His Rivals page has him at 4.5 but he is so much more stronger and powerful now and he is clearly one fast mother trucker who simply glides across the field.
Jonas was listed at 4.44 on Rivals coming out of high school, but I bet he runs around 4.6 to 4.65 this time next year.
by Eric Murtaugh on Apr 8, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
Hughes and Allen’s 40 times certainly explain why our RBs always seem to get caught from behind even when they do break free.
by Jeremy on Apr 8, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
I checked back on Rivals and Armondo’s 40 time coming out of highschool was 4.3! Did he really get taht much slower?
by J on Apr 8, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions
15 reps of bench press at 225 lbs. for Brian Smith. R U kidding me? What a girl!!! I should try out for the team if that’s all it takes.
by J on Apr 8, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions
J—please. You don’t have the athleticism to sniff B-Smith’s jock, much less to walk on to his dorms interhall team. You couldn’t lift 225 if I spotted you 220. B-Smith gave his all for ND football for four tough years. Show some respect.
As for the speed talk, ‘mando said that he still isn’t fully recovered, is he? That’s what he said, anyhow. Robert Hughes never seemed that slow to me. He wasn’t a fast college RB, but For a big back, he wasn’t slow in terms of football speed.
Glad to see that Mr. Floyd will get a chance to redeem himself. Having had my own run-ins with Malloy-era reslife, I’d say that this punishment seems less strict than what I would have expected. But I think reslife has been too heavy-handed in the past. This punishment is also more consistent with Reslife’s more lenient policies of late. See Ragone, Mike. I disagree with everyone who puts the draconian punishments of the reslife of yore on bill Kirk. He was doing his job, and I don’t think he was given much discretion. I think that the change in policies has far more to do with Malloys exit, Jenkins’ entrance, and possibly a change in attitudes among the BOT.
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by MouthOfTheSouth on Apr 8, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
B. Smith has long arms, and I know how benching sucks for people with long arms. His reps aren’t a big deal, but yeah that’s a pretty low number for a linebacker.
Regarding the running backs, I think what everyone said about Armando never getting back to his high school speed after his broken leg might be true. He’s probably not 100 percent healthy right now too, so that doesn’t help either. I always thought Hughes first few steps were painfully slow, and combined with his tendenacy to tap dance instead of powering forward, he was slow as far as I’m concerned. Obviously he didn’t have good top end speed, but I thought once he broke through the line, he had good speed for a big guy, but it took a while for him to get going.
More coming on Floyd soon.
by Eric Murtaugh on Apr 9, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions

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